supo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ok.. a putter shaft is a putter shaft right ?? yea, well that's what I thought till sunday too. Ive been using 2 of my fujukura tours onewith a DG steel thing the other with a fujikura Made for bettinardi ..... id never ever considered it previoulsy bec id not hit these 2 in tandem but after last weekend it was absolutely different THE same betti tour head with a steel DG and the fujikura was like hitting 2 different putters on different grass! the difference was IMMENSE. the carbon seemed to absorb the shock miles more and was a shorter distance roll and a grippier feel and slowness at the hole, it seemed MILES more controlled with less distance with the same stroke, the steel seemed to jump more off the face and on fast greens which these were the fujikura shafted one was consistently closer to the hole time and again than the steel one, the dispersion was noticeable as well. SO last night I was mucking about with a masda putter with a quadra fire express putter shaft in it. if I thought the fujikura was nice, THIS was amazing, I cant explain in words t he difference, bec unless u hit a few of these u cant know, lord knows till Saturday I ahd no idea, even the loads of Frequency filtered shafts ivce got fro mattas, are nothing. NOTHJING in comapriosn to the new stuff. ive gotta get one.... that quadra one is just trerrrifc. anyone else got one , anything of note ??????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cforselius Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I cant shim in on anything other than Im going to get a carbon shaft for my Miura Km-008 before season start. The quadra is one of the candidates and it sure seems promising after reading this. Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) try the Dogatti. Even Sasaya-san was totally impressed when he was building up my IPT putter. It's crazy stiff at around 500 cpm... but it feels great and rolls the ball so well! I now have it in my Geo Galaxy as well. Edited January 21, 2016 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Since you are in Japan, maybe you can get a hold of one of those Black Diamana Protos that Yuta Ikeda was using for a while. Uber rare Only 100 pieces made. I know of one on the market paired up with a Scotty Tour Rat... they want 400,000 yen for the putter so .. I am just drolling over the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ill check it out... that quadra is magic ,so if the dogatti is up t here . oh boy. im in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I tried the Fire Express as well. Dogatti feels more solid to me. I think it's mainly because of the tunsgten powder infused carbon sheet it uses full length. Also because of how stiff it is, when you waggle your putter, there is absolutely no flex in the shaft . I do believe this minimal flex of the shaft contributes to better distance control and consistency. Edited January 21, 2016 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) dogatti made by muziik......... love their stuff. ok ill check it out Nobs. ive got their grips on a a few clubs and they are my new favourites. dogatti thing looks terrific as well ,esp the back one. cant I find any info o nthe diamana.. might have to pop in and see them in person on that one Edited January 21, 2016 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Hows the feedback on mis hits with the Doggati? I didn't like other carbon shafts because it kinda numb'd out the feel of bad putts, regardless it felt good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 perhaps different heads may provide different feedback but for my two putters. IPT GF mod and Geo Galaxy, I can totally tell if I missed the sweet spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Wandered into a shop today and found a Diamana prototype putter shaft. About half the cost of the above. Would love to hear any feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 In Seattle? Wow! That's a rare find! not sure if I've read any feedback. They are so rare. Yuta Ikeda used it for a few months. but went back to steel. So I guess that tells us Ikeda didn't care for ir roo much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpies Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 In Seattle? Wow! That's a rare find! not sure if I've read any feedback. They are so rare. Yuta Ikeda used it for a few months. but went back to steel. So I guess that tells us Ikeda didn't care for ir roo much. hey nob so after all your graphite putter shaft testing, could you rate your favourite? maybe top 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yeah.. like mag's says. Can we get an update after you get the Diamana Proto in your stable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Will do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted January 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 ok had a good session witrh the dogatti the other night and bit the bullet... I was hitting it so pure with this putter nd it felt just like I like so I had to give it a go. will be tested properly in a cpl of weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Nice! I feel these shafts are in a league of its own. So comparing the two putters I have with Dogattis, I noticed that the label location was totally different. One was assembled by Gold's Sasaya-san and the other by me. It looks like Sasaya san took off a good 1.5 inches from the tip . I did not tip at all. Difference in feel? not really. They are both stiff like no other. But In theory, the tipped one should be even stiffer. I just thought I would mention it because I've never even thought about tipping putter shafts. Is this common practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Quick update. I put the Diamana Proto in my Gold's T102. Totally changed the feel compared to the Ns Pro Heavy shaft I had in it. The feel is now quite firm. Perhaps bordering "clicky" for some. Firmest of my three putters. Distance conrol has improved drastically!! Loving it! Gold's T102 / Diamana Proto - JIS SUS303 body - Tungsten weight on toe and heel of face - No milling flat face "Vintage Gold's" Yamada IPT Gold's Mod / Dogatti - Horizontal PZ Milling on Custom German Silver Insert - Carbon Steel Body "Softest feeling" Geo Galaxy / Dogatti - JIS SUS303 body - Deep milled face "Best all rounder" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) If I rank the shafts themselves. It'll go like this: Feel: 1. NS Pro Heavy 2. Dogatti 3. Diamana 4. Fire Express Distance Control: 1. Dogatti 2. Diamana 3. Fire Express 4. NS Pro heavy Edited February 3, 2016 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm great info Nob-san. I think im gonna lift another dogatti for my GSS golds. the stiffness of that shaft with the horizontal PZ grooves on the golds might make it a bit more taught. I will say the dogatti has a feel all of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mob Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 If I rank the shafts themselves. It'll go like this: Feel: 1. NS Pro Heavy 2. Dogatti 3. Diamana 4. Fire Express Which putter shaft do you like the best? Can you give Alittle more detail on the Dogatti, as I am considering one. Thanks Distance Control: 1. Dogatti 2. Diamana 3. Fire Express 4. NS Pro heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I still like the Dogatti the best out of the three graphites. Fire Express was still good but was flexier compared to the Dogatti and felt a bit hollower. Dogatti feels like really stiff solid steel bar. Diamana is as stiff as the Dogatti but perhaps not as solid feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm great info Nob-san. I think im gonna lift another dogatti for my GSS golds. the stiffness of that shaft with the horizontal PZ grooves on the golds might make it a bit more taught. I will say the dogatti has a feel all of its own. My guess is that you would get a more direct feel of the PZ milling. GSS Gold's + Dogatti = MM mm good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpies Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 My guess is that you would get a more direct feel of the PZ milling. GSS Gold's + Dogatti = MM mm good! thanks Nob for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Nobsan, did you tip the Dimamana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yes, in fact I used Sasaya-san's method to tip most of the parallel section off . It worked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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