+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 New Iron & New Wedge from Yamaha. These are the Tour Models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire56 Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 beauties! iron head looks great, i'm assuming minimal offset, would love a size comparison. did they go back to forging the wedges? if so those are primo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 As always, these look fantastic. I've always drooled over Yamaha's MBs yet somehow never owned a set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) I still remember everyone went crazy when the 2012 and 2013 Tour Models came out!! Ironically to this day, I too have not had the chance to try them. Hopefully, Yamaha makes a comeback this year to regain some fans they lost after switching to "RMX" series. Edited September 13, 2017 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 RMX was a killer....... Nob you have to try some vintage Yamaha. Awesome clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 These look awesome from the back. I have had a large number of irons the last 7 years but nothing has kicked the 2009 tour models out of the bag. Still firmly there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 The rest of the new line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted September 13, 2017 Report Share Posted September 13, 2017 There seems to be a design trend where the back face look like they shifted the weight towards the toe. Miura CB2008 , A Grind A-CB , and now these RMX 118. Are these supposed to make these irons anti-left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 2:06 PM, nobmontana said: There seems to be a design trend where the back face look like they shifted the weight towards the toe. Miura CB2008 , A Grind A-CB , and now these RMX 118. Are these supposed to make these irons anti-left? They are just a different look. Brands may try to say it moves the CG to a lower more center position but 2 things fault that logic: 1. you can simply make the hosel shorter to do the same & there are many ways to add mass to the toe or reduce mass toward the heel. 2. you want the cg slightly toward the heel to promote face closure with irons. a true center face cg is a bitch to hit. Because we use CAD to produce the CB & MCB we are able to see what changes are required to move CG depth and height. It takes much more drastic adjustments to move it than most would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, TourSpecGolfer said: ...2. you want the cg slightly toward the heel to promote face closure with irons. a true center face cg is a bitch to hit... Can I try please!!!! Are there any irons that truly have a center or even toe biased cg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops1967 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) On 15/09/2017 at 9:20 PM, TourSpecGolfer said: Because we use CAD to produce the CB & MCB we are able to see what changes are required to move CG depth and height. It takes much more drastic adjustments to move it than most would think. Remember this next time someone waffles about jacked lofts being necessary to prevent 'ballooning' - absolute unmitigated horsesh@t. ... in 'the old' days with regular 4 degree loft gaps down to the 3 iron or indeed 1 iron... why do modern jacked loft sets with 42 degree 'pitching wedges' suddenly have 2 degree gaps in their long irons hmmm? Surely we need 16 degree 3 irons to prevent this terrible outbreak of uncontrollable ballooning? Or just read a quite old book about clubs by Tom Wishon - to significantly lower CG in an iron (which must still meet the standard head weight remember...) the only truly meaninful option is the very highly lofted wood, or you may remember 'low profile' irons.... now there's some potential ballooning for you ;-) ps those Yamahas look nice... always liked that 3 tuning fork logo Edited September 16, 2017 by coops1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 My dad had a set of Brownings!!! He mostly played his Lynx set , though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 8:22 AM, coops1967 said: Remember this next time someone waffles about jacked lofts being necessary to prevent 'ballooning' - absolute unmitigated horsesh@t. ... in 'the old' days with regular 4 degree loft gaps down to the 3 iron or indeed 1 iron... why do modern jacked loft sets with 42 degree 'pitching wedges' suddenly have 2 degree gaps in their long irons hmmm? Surely we need 16 degree 3 irons to prevent this terrible outbreak of uncontrollable ballooning? Or just read a quite old book about clubs by Tom Wishon - to significantly lower CG in an iron (which must still meet the standard head weight remember...) the only truly meaninful option is the very highly lofted wood, or you may remember 'low profile' irons.... now there's some potential ballooning for you ;-) ps those Yamahas look nice... always liked that 3 tuning fork logo We need to get over being outraged with strong lofts. Its not good or bad. it just is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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