nobmontana Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) In my quest for improving consistency in my irons, I've decided to try a couple of other shafts. Will be trying Modus 120 Stiff and Modus 105 Regular with my current irons to see if I can gain consistency over the 125 Stiff that I have been using the last 18 Mos. What I'm hoping to achieve is to be able to hit my irons without grunting on each swing.... and hopefully to bring out the better/softer feel of the forged heads. Obviously shaft frequency is not the only thing that determines how a shaft fits your swing... but nevertheless I feel the need to try. Perhaps this might be useful info for others too so.. Below is a list of Modus series in the order from stiffest down to least stiff. Also throwing in 950GH, DG S200 and X100 for comparison. All based on standard 5 iron length with similar weight heads. 130 X 376 CPM 130 S 359 CPM DG X100 354 CPM 130 R 350 CPM 125 X 351 CPM 130 R 350 CPM 105 X 343 CPM 120 TX 342 CPM 950GH X 340 CPM 125 S 339 CPM DG S200 335 CPM 120 X 327 CPM 105 S 327 CPM 950GH S 325 CPM 125 R 324 CPM 120 S 316 CPM 105 R 314 CPM 950GH R 311 CPM 120 R 308 CPM Edited August 18, 2019 by nobmontana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnq22 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Good analysis mate - thank you for this. Helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Thanks Nobsan. Lots of homework there. Lmk on the 105R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Many that I have spoken in the past love the feel of Modus 120 Stiff with their forged irons. Then they try 105 Stiff and are not hoppy because the feel at impact is harsher. 105 Regular is at a similar CPM with the 120 Stiff. Hopefully they will feel as good as the 120 Stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I'm now wondering if 125 R might be a good one to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 120s is miles.smoother than105x 130s is smoother than 105x 125 s is as firm as 105x and just softer than 120x. my order of.play is. oh and i only play ns pro iro shafts.. 120s 950s 130s 120x 1150s 125s 130x. thats my lot. best of ns all round is the 120s best shaft is the 130s best players shaft is the 125s if...u hit hard thru the ball. cant fo wrongwoth 120s hard or soft ztpeed for the masses. 125 for playrrs and 130 for phooooarrrr!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Shankenstein Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 13 hours ago, nobmontana said: Many that I have spoken in the past love the feel of Modus 120 Stiff with their forged irons. Then they try 105 Stiff and are not hoppy because the feel at impact is harsher. 105 Regular is at a similar CPM with the 120 Stiff. Hopefully they will feel as good as the 120 Stiff. Good info here. I pretty much fall into this camp. Love my 120s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Shankenstein Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 If you were to throw any of the shimadas into this spectrum, where would they land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 And now come the requests for all the other shafts. Hahahahahahaha 😅 Thanks for the info nob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Nobs played the K's 8001 I’m Shinagawa heads in the outing we had at The Home Course in DuPont. They compared to 1050gh if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Shimada are taught more like the125s for feel im playing a set of 3001s ina set of mb and they suit prefectly. kick seesm abit higher and lower launch and very tough to move about, they are point shooters the tour125s are like a dgx100 the tour115s like a s300 or ns120x kinda thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Problem I had with the K's8001 ( which is a uniflex model ) was that I got too much spin resulting in loss of distance by a significant amount. Felt really nice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnq22 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Found this chart for FCM - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnq22 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 And this one - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcs217 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I’ve got some LSL & 2F15 Proto’s both in Stiff flex that I’m about to install & test... I’ve read that the LSL is similar to 125 & 2F15 is similar to the 130... I typically play 130 in Stiff but I’m searching for something a tad less beastly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire56 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 i cannot believe the 120x is only 327! That shouldn't be labeled "x" should it? I'm very happy to have read this though, great post, because I've always been a huge fan of DGx100 and i currently game Shimada K' Tour X (which I also love), but I've always been very interested in trying either the 120x or tx because they're so popular, and I also really like KBS Tour 130x which I thought they'd be similar to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Modus 120 was their first Modus model. I honestly think they totally messed up with the stiffness specs. 105 was next and this time they did it right. 105 S is just above 950GH S which makes sense. 130 is a beast of a shaft. I actually won a set from Nippon when it was first introduced in the U.S. I had to Soft Step a Stiff. Here is a list of the top 7 stiffest in the list that I have but not including the DG X7 or the PX 7.0. I'm sure those are even stiffer. But notice how Modus 130 S is stiffer then X100. *** Modus 130 X 376 CPM K's Tour X 368 CPM Project X 6.5 362 CPM KBS Tour X 360 CPM Modus 130 S 359 CPM Project X 6.0 356 CPM Dynamic Gold X100 354 CPM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcs217 Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 What’s really insane is how the 130R at 350 CPM is actually closer to the X100 at 354 CPM than the 130S at 359 CPM... I used to play the X100 & simply could not do it today... I suppose it could be the smoothness of Nippon, but the 130 profile just seems to fit my swing/tempo... The 130, in my opinion, is the perfect combination of stable & smooth... After the 130, I’d have to say the Crazy Target Tour 120 (Which I believe is pretty much a frequency matched Shimada k Tour) is next... I’ve yet to try the 125 however... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Nobs I don't think the 130s are anywhere near as stiff to play as the 125s ive got several sets in play and find them pretty smooth. love the ball flight. soft stpeed a set of 130x protos and that gives them an extra kick, I get the ball higher and lands a bit softer. they are heavy, but they play lighter the the 125s bec of the flight. 120s play light and super smooth and the 105play very light and pretty stiff. my order of pref is 130s 120x 125s 105x but I still like the super peening range so adding them to the mix 130s SP orange s 120x 130x soft stepped Sp blue s 125s 105x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcs217 Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 The Super Peening Orange & Blue had been my go to shafts up until I first tried the 130... I’ve got nothing but nostalgia for the SPO/SPB though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I play a ton of golf in very strong wind on links or by the sea each year so I don't need shafts that launch high and soar for these days so I build a few sets to accommodate these conds. the best ive found are the SP blue, modus 120x, shimada 125s even tho these are very strout and pretty heavy then the NS125s of them all he sp blue are prob the best and the ones id go to if I were looking to have just one set. I get whay NS moved away form SP to modus for the masses but I still think they shud have kept making these as they were so damn good. got a cpl of sets of orange up my sleeve still and a set of blues in a set of old callaway tour authentic heads that are really lovely to play when its wet! id take the Sp range over the modus range still actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobmontana Posted August 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 Nothing against the SP Blues... I like them too. but I think they are Nippon's attempt to create something similar to Dynamic Golds. When you compare the steps on the SP Blue side by side against DG S200, they are almost identical. Obviously, quality control and tolerance are no comparison between the two but the design may be very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 agreed sp blue not tje best feel similar.to 125s . tjey also look really schmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuistot Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Nippon super preening data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 excellent find! think I may grab a set of reds STIFF as well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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