Shankopotamus

This thread is still alive after almost 8 years?!

This is a nice combo review I'm looking forward to.

Ok, say you've bombed your drive down the right side of an unjustifiably long dog leg left, but your ball takes a wicked kick to the right off an undulation on the fairway. Unluckily, you find your ball buried about an inch under some pretty thick rough. There's 180y to the front of the green. Assuming you have a club that you can hit out of deep rough at that length, are you hitting an iron, hybrid, or dare I say it, a fairway wood... or do you lay up?! And if you're confident hitting a hybrid out of deep rough at long yardage, what is it? Basically, I just want to know what the best 2/3 hybrid is out of the rough, IF there is a good low lofted hybrid out of the rough at all. By the way, I was looking at the Fourteen 2010 UT-409 utility's sole and thought it might be a contender for those longer shots from the thick stuff.

Anyone?

Thanks, that's good to know. Can anyone give me some comparison info?

225 cpm seems off, especially at such a light head weight. But I'm sure Tario would be able to confirm for sure. Most of the regular flex shafts that I install into 195ish g driver heads have come out to the 240-245 range.

If you don't handle custom alterations yourself, a trusty club builder is necessary! Otherwise, what's the point in spending good money on clubs and then handing them over to someone else for a shotty job.

Alrighty, I stand corrected on that last statement then.

Yes. You must bore your hosels if the to diameter of any shaft is bigger than your hotel diameter.

I think us domestic TM graphic shafts are all the real deal, whereas the MFT shafts like kaili and ilima have way different shaft profile to their aftermarket originals.

How do the Tour Lites compare to Nippon 950, 1050, and kbs tour shafts? TSG Proshop only carries the Shimada wedge shafts. Can they get iron shafts, like the tour lites, if I wanted them?

Robb, what did you end up doing here?

Can anyone give me a good comparison comparing the 2 shafts? Launch, spin rates, and kick feeling, dispersion compared to each other would be great, thanks.

And yes, please do post your review of these shafts if you get your hands on them.

I don't want to thread jack here, but ECA, dude, your witb link is sweet!

I think the pro lites are parallel tip. You don't have to step these shafts. Just get a trusty club builder to cut the tips to the right frequency for you.

Stew, since you love TM clubs so much, why don't you install it into the ROCKETBALLZZZZZ, haha.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Crazy driver shafts are designed to optimize longer length drivers, since they are basically super stable. Assuming that characteristic extends to their fw and ute shafts, I would go as long of a shaft as possible where you actually feel like you have control over the clubs, b/c you know the stability will be there.

Does TSG have testers with more average swing speeds testing this out too? Over the years, I'm convinced that feedback from really good golfers, like Tats and Stew, doesn't serve the average swinger as much as the better golfers b/c equipment needs are way different. Even how better golfers interpret feedback and really make the most of equipment potential is different. I guess that's why I really value Tario's take on new gear, just wish there were some other, more average, testers b/c one man can't do it all :)

I would actually love to see someone review the TM Gloire with a crazy or roddio in it.

US domestic clubs, particularly club heads are pretty good in design, even in technology, but definitely suffer in precision, especially in quality control. I remember bringing my TM r7 10.5 head to my local club maker, and the head was actually 12*. And of course Japans forgings are the absolute best. I like Ping's wrx b/c they will actually pick out a head to your desired specs. Shafts on the other hand, jdm hands down!

It's a bit harder to tell with the dim lighting, but they look pretty different to me. In blades, mms make the difference.

I guess the slower swingers will just have to hope a playable version in the second generation b/c I really like those graphics.

I'm assuming that this shaft is targeted toward the super fast 110+ mph hard hitters.

My interest has certainly peaked reading this thread. How does the m7 compare to the 6w-ba? I don't see the m7 on the proshop here. I'm guessing it's am older model? Would the slingy feel of the roddio + a soft epon head combo just feel like a marshmallow?