gregoire56

I'd love to know if the new wedge is Endo forged like the older ones; it's s20c and has the same face milling pattern, so if they are then I'd be very interested to check them out (even though 10* bounce on the 58* is a bit too high)

If I had the disposable funds at the moment I'd snag these beauties up in a heartbeat without hesitation. They look to be in phenomenal condition and you are 100% correct they're about as high quality an iron as you can get. Ughhhh I even even already have a full matching wedge set.. 52/56/58/60(bent)

Yes, the increase in length most likely accounts for the higher sw's. also, the stiffer his shafts are supposed to be the higher the sw's should be as well to compensate.

I would be very interested to hear some of those pros/cons of carbon vs steel and stepless vs stepped putter shafts and their weight, with regard to the type of head and/or stroke

That's for their newer models, older ones like the 435/425 were DAT55G I believe

Pm'd about 9.5* head

this one still available?

still available? if so pm me

I'll be interested to discover the answers for each of the other heads as well...

jBEAM 435 and 425 are DAT55G if I'm not mistaken... but I easily could be

Ya when I started this thread I wasn't expecting it to take-off so much.. I'm happy it did though because I think it's generating a lot of quality info

The first and most important thing I'd recommend worrying about is making sure your swing weight is spot-on... I see you're playing it with a AAA shaft, which should be pretty stout and a straight/low shooter, so I'd suggest (if you have the ability) that you have the club frequency measured with the head on, and then add weight to the head to get it around a D3-D4 (depending how high the frequency is). My experience with all the JDM driver heads I've had (so far) is that their stock weight is typically too low, usually around 200g, and I've personally also been fit into stout and low launching shafts, which necessitates that I add weight to the heads when building the clubs to compensate for the higher cpm of my shafts. Example: I'm fit to a 7.2 driver shaft frequency, which is around mid-range of x-stiff, and my driver builds are usually D5-D5.5 at 45", approx. 209-211g head weight, always standard l/l/l because I'm not a fan of adjustable hosels. If you play your driver at a longer length then maybe you don't need to add weight because SW increases as shaft length increases, but believe me when I say that proper length and SW make all the difference in the world. JDM driver heads I've had: Grandista RS-001, Epon AF-105, jBEAM ZY-11, Mizuno '15 MP Craft, Vega RAD-04, Fourteen GelongD CT-214; the only one of them I was able to get to the proper SW using only weights and no hot melt is the ZY-11, and only because I got lucky that there's spots for three 8g weights since I didn't have much choice being that it's factory foamed so, in short, swapping the weight positions might help get better results by compensating for certain faults in your swing, and there's nothing wrong with that at all.. but unless your club has a proper SW then it doesn't make much difference because it's much more difficult to put a consistent swing on the ball, and thus you could start dealing with inconsistent misses

https://www.tourspecgolf.com/seven-double-milled-forged-wedge.html

User "marmaduk" has a mint set listed on the BST right now. I was eyeing them myself but decided I'm more than content with my current irons

based on my experience I couldn't agree more! That RS-D looks awesome and I've heard nothing except players raving about it, so it won't be a stretch to think that I might have to get my hands on one at some point. and I've just played my first round this weekend with my new Mizuno '15 MP Craft driver with a real forged SP700 face, and I must admit it's bitter-sweet because I LOVE it, the performance and feel are incredible, however it's quite upsetting to know that this real SP700 titanium will soon be a material of the past :'(

Hahahah I guess I'm just a bit slow on the uptake then

hah Good-Luck-With-Sale

I totally agree with your statement about DAT55G on FW faces, the Grandista RS-F is the best wood I've ever hit, its long and its straight and the feel off the face is sublime. However, I also just got a Grandista RS-001 w the DAT55G face, and I'm absolutely a believer 10000%. The very first time I used it I hit every single fairway which I used it for, and that is saying something quite significant, I cant remember the last time I even came close, because my driver is by and far my most inconsistent club so I use it less than my 3w off the tee because I'm very consistent with my 3w. But this round it was the reverse, I used the RS-001 a lot off the tee and the 3w only a couple times. Between those two clubs I didn't miss one fairway, and my driver is never ever as consistent as my most consistent club, that's unheard of for me. I saw no distance loss with the RS-001 from my jBEAM ZY-11 (which also helps me significantly with finding the fairway, but I still usually don't use it as much as I used the RS-001 during that round). And yes, I also believe both new Mizuno MPs are forged SP700, and I actually am picking up the2015 Mizuno MP Craft driver today from my builder, and that one is Endo made and also has forged SP700 face, I'm quite excited to try it out.

glad to hear it!

that's a shame, i think those iD nabla Tour irons and wedges are both phenomenal; after those, in terms of quality, i think their player's irons and wedges took a big step backwards

i find these two FWs to be VERY long with the shafts I have in them: -Grandista RS-F (DAT55G face) with Aldila Rogue Silver 125msi 70TX -Epon AF-203 (forged SP700 face) with Graphite Design TourAD P9003x both heads are great for feel and control and distance in my opinion, but they also both have smaller volume head sizes and i know the AF-203 especially is a little more difficult to hit, but if you can hit it properly then it is a bomber. the shafts are both low launch/low spin too so i'm sure that helps with distance. FYI though I have no experience with any of the other bombers that're listed here most frequently (ie. Ryoma, PRGR Egg, Maruman Shuttle, Baldo, A-Grind, etc.) so unfortunately i cannot compare these two with any of the others

Really?! FairwayGolf USA sells them and this is the first time I've seen a JDM product available through them that isn't also available in the TSG pro shop for a better price. FairwayGolf doesn't really provide any info on them though, and the Tune series isn't even listed on the PRGR global website. it seems like the Tune series has its own website, and it says the iron heads are s25c and forged in China, so I guess PRGR has officially stopped using Endo

good post because I have also been wondering what the situation is with the PRGR Tunes.. the irons do look nice, as well as their drivers/woods especially the Tour wood, but I don't know anything about them. I know Endo used to make PRGR's high-end forgings, but I think that stopped at some point and as far as I know these are not from Endo, correct or incorrect? any feedback will provide more info than I currently know ha

What kind of insert is that? It probably plays a big part in price, plus the GSS, it looks exotic

Chris - firstly, I very much appreciate you being so candid and transparent about facts like that.. secondly, just out of curiosity, I'm guessing then that Endo doesn't/wasn't producing its own sp700 material, or maybe they are but aren't creating the "real" version, although doubtful since they probably aren't the ones who just went under or else it'd have been big news? I ask because some of the (subjectively) best drivers/woods have had forged sp700 faces and were Endo made. I'm wondering if no such new clubs will be able to get produced anymore as a result of this manufacturer going under?