September 12, 201212 yr comment_186717 For me they are: Epon Miura TourStage Mizuno Can;t think of a 5th...
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186718 I've only tried a limited number of irons, but here ya go; Yamaha Epon Srixon Miura MD Golf
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186722 Here are my 5 fwiw: PRGR (most underrated forged irons on the planet, great design for "diggers") ONOFF Epon Tourstage Mizuno (nothing wrong with Mizzys) Plenty more out there I've yet to try - Romaros look the goods!
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186726 Would be great if OP can summarize the choices of TSG members here
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186733 Epon Miura Yamaha Tourstage PRGR Edited September 12, 201212 yr by ukok
September 12, 201212 yr Author comment_186747 yamaha, miura and epon are among the top 5 in jut about everyones list..no crazy love??
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186748 yamaha, miura and epon are among the top 5 in jut about everyones list..no crazy love?? Crazy is new to the iron game, give it a few more years as it isn't one of their Core strengths as ofnthe moment.
September 12, 201212 yr comment_186779 Predictably....... Epon Epon Epon Epon Epon Honourable mentions to Miura, Mizuno and agree with Spoon, I played i3+ years ago and those in Endo forged would be mint.
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186851 Its amazing how many golfers choose Miura considering they are not even close to a top brand here in Japan. They have done quite a marketing job overseas and outside of Japan. I am sure they make great irons and wedges but in my opinion design wise and technology wise they don't match up to many of the brands today. And that is just my opinion as Miura does not have the same mystique here in Japan as they do outside of it. If brands: Yamaha Epon Mizuno Yururi Tourstage If actual manufacturers Endo Endo Mizuno Kyoei Endo Not ranked but if you consider other FORGED irons: Callaway = Endo Titleist = Endo RC = Endo ONOFF = Endo Srixon = Srixon Romaro = Kyoei Kyoei Zestaim = Kyoei PRGR = Endo Fourteen Athlete Models = Endo Honma = Endo Crazy = Kyoei
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186856 Hey t nice inputs! Seems like the miura mystique originated in the us. Anyways Weren't srixons forged in endo? Did not even know they had a foundry
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186860 Its amazing how many golfers choose Miura considering they are not even close to a top brand here in Japan. They have done quite a marketing job overseas and outside of Japan. I am sure they make great irons and wedges but in my opinion design wise and technology wise they don't match up to many of the brands today. OK. I'll bite. In my limited knowledge of the Japanese market, players over there are, as a general rule, are extremely interested in technology, graphics, marketing, and things that don't always, if ever, improve performance. It seems that after reading many forums that are probably fewer players there that are only interested in how it performs and are able to perceive many small differences in clubs such as ball flight, accuracy, consistency. Maybe there, as here in the U.S. as well with Taylor made, etc., the majority of players prefer to discuss the attributes of their newest and shiniest offset, cavity-backed, multi-metal-infused irons. Not trying to flame, but Miura sticks with proven, simple designs that work but aren't flashy and high-tech. Not that one's better, I like tech too, but it's no surprise to me that Miura is not more popular there, or here for that matter. Kinda like Hogan back in the day here, not many played it, and it was considered traditional and outdated, but the ones who did said nothing was better. They tried to get more modern, but it just wasn't in their DNA. Same with Miura. If they start cramming other metals into their irons or using "power slots" or something, then I'll know their days are numbered.
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186863 Its amazing how many golfers choose Miura considering they are not even close to a top brand here in Japan. Which is bigger in Japan, Epon or Miura?
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186874 Epon Yamaha Mizuno PRGR Ping Granted, there's lots I have yet to try...
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186877 Edited: Opps got a bit negative there on Miura, dont wanna ruin the thread.
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186878 What is interesting in your write up is many things you point out as flaws Miura claims as benefits... In full disclosure I did have Miura in my top 5 and have enjoyed playing them immensely. The impetus to switch was to move to conforming clubs, not a dissatisfaction with them. When I started that process I knew what Miura feel was and wanted to compare to other stuff...
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186887 Edited so as not to get banned. Edited September 13, 201212 yr by Miuramaniac
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186888 No problemo, and I'm glad they work the best for you. I do like many of Miura's products I just take issue with what the U.S side spins as truth. Great marketing on their part I guess. MB5003, CB1007, WMF-06, & MB500WB are the products I have tried recently and they all perform very well.
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186889 From what I've read, I'm not sure anyone's been able to disprove their "spin".
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186891 It's common knowledge in Japan. Miura Giken says they don't own the Amaji factory while Miura USA says they do. Public records from the town registry show clearly that they don't. As for the 2D vs 3D, thats common knowledge for all foundries in China, Taiwan & Japan.
September 13, 201212 yr comment_186892 Chris, you are entitled to your opinion and even though you edited the original post it was done in a respectful manner. No need to have changed it. I do agree with MiuraManiac, although with much less vim and vinegar about the results garnered with their clubs... Also, when I have visited the Miura Japan website, they seem to flaunt their process as much as the US side does. They view it as a differentiator/strength, you and brands you refer to see it as a weakness. Owning the forging house is somewhat irrelevant to the equation however lying about it is ethically and legally questionable. Every company I have worked for has competitors that try to poke holes in the products my employers have made. Why would the golf industry be any different in that regard. True or not customers of those product make a choice on which "spin" to align with. There is truth and untruth on both sides of most arguments... Much like following a sports team, getting too charged up over something as arbitrary as your brand of choice or team allegiance, unless you work there or play for the team is pointless as you have no real impact on the product/outcome...
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