yogi Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 My Rep just came out to our demo days and my first question was, "got an R7? Im a pretty good golfer and play to around a 2-4 handicap on any given day. I am currently playing a 983K and havent hit anything that I have liked more, and I have hit everything under the planet with most every available shaft, except the new MP-001. My impression was this. If you do not have one, get one! Not later, not tomorrow, today! It was unbelievable. It was a 10.5 with the stock stiff shaft and I was in love. I have a fairly consistant swing and as we hit, we would have the rep change weights around. I could not believe the ball flights could change so noticeably by changing a few weights. As I talked to the rep he said it was being used by players who frequent different courses and want to eliminate a certain side of that course because of OB or water or whatever. It worked flawlessly! If a person plays a certain course or home course 99% of the time and doesnt need to change it around, thats fine, its still the sweetest club I have hit to date. He had also said the TP version will be substantialy more and will come with 3 options for shafts. Fujikura 757, Fujikura SIX and a Mitsubishi $%^?. Also with more weights and a tidy sack to carry it all in, as well as some kind of awesome headcover. The retail version is 1 degree closed and the TP version will be either square or half a degree open, he wasnt sure off hand. The Retail version will be allocated after June 15th at a cost of 500.00 and the TP version sometime in July, again Im not sure of cost on that. This is the info I was given. If Im wrong about something, I apologize in advance, simply letting everyone know what was told to me. Interested to know about others experiences with this stick. Thanks, Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGirl Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have been using the Japan version of the TM R7 quad 9.5* MAX for about a month now. Just like you, I am in love. I have never hit anything more consistant and longer. I have mine set on "More Left", and this may sound unbelievable, but I have gained anywhere from 30-45 yards on a good drive because of the lack of fade and the ball seems to rocket off during the initial contact. Don't get me wrong...Sometimes I still do have a slight fade if I my swing is out of whack, but still the distance is 10-20yards longer than it would be hitting a fade with my old driver. The reason is not the Hi COR either...my old driver was high COR. Also, with the draw bias with the R7, I noticed with repetition I am unconsciously learning a draw even with my fairway woods and irons which is good because of distance, but not so good because I don't know where to aim and my iron shots don't stick. Nevertheless, I have never hit anything better. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipCheck Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I hit it yesterday. Just 3 times. I hate TM metalwoods. But this felt pretty damn nice. 8O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I love the R7, Its forgiving long but doesn't feel very good at contact in my opinion. The weight ports don't work really for me, I can set it up to more right and hit it just as left as if it were on more left. The high vs Low trajectories work pretty decent but I just think it needs heavier weight plugs to really make a substantial difference. 16 - 25g plugs are what it needs to make a that difference. I have a Dela Cruz driver coming and it has 50g of weight that can be placed in different parts. I'm not going to be buying a tour R7 because I need a .5 - square face angle, the most i will do is wait for the TP M.A.X version from Japan. Thats right i play non conforming drivers, I have no handicap, and don't enter any tourneys so High C.O.R does not conflict with the system in regards to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jboy Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have hit the local Mizuno reps 9* MP001 with an NV 95 S at the range and it does feel good. Mizuno are back on track with this Driver. Again I'm not too keen on TM gear, since the bubble fiasco I think their clubs are just pure gimmick especially the woods but I'd like to try the R7 but I'm not sure about d**king around with weights and their gear looks really cheap and nasty, just like Nike product. Take me back to the days of pre-system2, I still own a Tour Preferred Tour Burner 7* and a Tour Brassie 12*, completely functional, looks great and no gimmicks.. .. their stuff today is overpriced junkand pure hype. Like the R5 series, this stuff will be gone out of folks bags in 18 months... my tour burner was in the bag (punctuated by a Flex twist Burner Plus) till the 975D came along. How many clubs have staying power like that now ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip7111 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I want to like the R7, but I was still hitting the Orlimar 10 yards farther than the R7 last night. It looks so nice at address. It was probably the shaft though. NV vs. stock stiff isnt a fair fight. Steve :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I have hit the local Mizuno reps 9* Â MP001 with an NV 95 S at the range and it does feel good. Â Mizuno are back on track with this Driver. Again I'm not too keen on TM gear, since the bubble fiasco I think their clubs are just pure gimmick especially the woods but I'd like to try the R7 but I'm not sure about d**king around with weights and their gear looks really cheap and nasty, just like Nike product.Take me back to the days of pre-system2, I still own a Tour Preferred Tour Burner 7* and a Tour Brassie 12*, completely functional, looks great and no gimmicks.. .. their stuff today is overpriced junkand pure hype. Like the R5 series, this stuff will be gone out of folks bags in 18 months... my tour burner was in the bag (punctuated by a Flex twist Burner Plus) till the 975D came along. How many clubs have staying power like that now ?? You're definitely entitled to this opinion, but I respectfully disagree. I love Taylor Made woods. I love the feel, the look at address, the different options they give me, and even the sound the club makes. You are definitely in the minority, jboy, as is evidenced by Taylor Made's presence in every day Joe's bag and the tour bag as well. The public would recognize junk and reject junk. But, that is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAQ Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Personally, I get the heebie jeebies playing TM drivers because of Todd. I hope some day to get over it. It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Can't go there. There are lots of good drivers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringer Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I love the R7, Its forgiving long but doesn't feel very good at contact in my opinion. The weight ports don't work really for me, Â I can set it up to more right and hit it just as left as if it were on more left. The high vs Low trajectories work pretty decent but I just think it needs heavier weight plugs to really make a substantial difference. 16 - 25g plugs are what it needs to make a that difference. I have a Dela Cruz driver coming and it has 50g of weight that can be placed in different parts.I'm not going to be buying a tour R7 because I need a .5 - square face angle, the most i will do is wait for the TP M.A.X version from Japan. Thats right i play non conforming drivers, I have no handicap, and don't enter any tourneys so High C.O.R does not conflict with the system in regards to me. If the 9.5* R7 TP's are going to be square-.5 open, I won't have to buy a tour issue R7 :) ...I'll believe it when I see it though because the retail 9.5* 510tp's were closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfX Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I have hit the local Mizuno reps 9* Â MP001 with an NV 95 S at the range and it does feel good. Â Mizuno are back on track with this Driver. Again I'm not too keen on TM gear, since the bubble fiasco I think their clubs are just pure gimmick especially the woods but I'd like to try the R7 but I'm not sure about d**king around with weights and their gear looks really cheap and nasty, just like Nike product.Take me back to the days of pre-system2, I still own a Tour Preferred Tour Burner 7* and a Tour Brassie 12*, completely functional, looks great and no gimmicks.. .. their stuff today is overpriced junkand pure hype. Like the R5 series, this stuff will be gone out of folks bags in 18 months... my tour burner was in the bag (punctuated by a Flex twist Burner Plus) till the 975D came along. How many clubs have staying power like that now ?? Please refresh my memory about this "bubble fiasco" you mentioned. Are you talking shafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jboy Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Yes, Bubble shafts. And Love2golf, everybody may drive a Ford automobile but it doesn't mean it's not junk or the best car on the market. You're just drinking a new flavour of Kool-Aid, hype can't survive in a niche market, that's why the masses fall for it and TM is a in everybodies bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breal Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I had lunch with the rep in california yesterday saw all the new stuff and the driver it was beautiful after hearing the concept made since and was great the regular model is closed with a 350 tip and the tp is 335 and the tp is going to be square to .5 open depending on the club you pick up. But in about a month for the regular r7 you can but a tp package and get the heavyer weights so you can tinker more if i remember right something like 800 and sometheng combos you can do so really you can buy the non-tp but the tp stuff and have all the wait you need . Now after hitting it was the most solid driver i have hit to date i maybe picked up about 15 to 20 yards and smoking it down the pipe all day it was freaking me out because i was hitting into long par fives with a 5 0r 6 iron go figure all as i can say get one or wait for the tp weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLMelton Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Regardless of politics this was just priceless. I almost had to clean the coffee off of my keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Regardless of politics this was just priceless. I almost had to clean the coffee off of my keyboard. Have to agree with you there CL , but for me it is diet coke :lol: btw: what is a Republican , wasn't that some kind of aircraft or something like that in WW2 :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillypete Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Regardless of politics this was just priceless. I almost had to clean the coffee off of my keyboard. Have to agree with you there CL , but for me it is diet coke :lol: btw: what is a Republican , wasn't that some kind of aircraft or something like that in WW2 :?: I thought it was funny and I have to agree, back in the Pre TSG days I wouldn't have thought of putting a TM product in the bag just because I didn't want to be a sheep... but I have been over here so long that that kind of thinking has been washed from my memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLMelton Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Regardless of politics this was just priceless. I almost had to clean the coffee off of my keyboard. Have to agree with you there CL , but for me it is diet coke :lol: btw: what is a Republican , wasn't that some kind of aircraft or something like that in WW2 :?: Besides being one of our illustrious political parties I believe Republican was the company that made the old punch card voting machines for the state of Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Yeah my mistake it was Fairchild Repiblic aircraft that I was thinking about . They built the A-10 Warthog . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 but it doesn't mean it's not junk or the best car on the market.You're just drinking a new flavour of Kool-Aid, hype can't survive in a niche market, that's why the masses fall for it and TM is a in everybodies bag. Junk to you. That's why I said you're entitled to your opinion. No, I am not drinking a new flavour. I have owned several TM drivers since the 300 series. I do not plan on buying an R7 yet. Every club I buy is because I like it and it works well for me, not because of hype. I demo each and every driver I buy along with other drivers on the market at the time. I just prefer TM. A lot of it for me is feel and sound. I don't have to wear ear plugs to hit TM. Am I going to spend $700 on a retail R7? H*ll no. The prices are already $499 for the base line R7 driver. I believe this is where the R500 series was until stores started to drop the price to $399. The R7 will drop in price IMO. Just give it a few months. I do agree that TM is not for everybody. I also agree that this driver appears to be gimmicky and overpriced. But to slander all TM drivers past and present as hype and gimmick is just asinine. By the way, did we really have to get political in this thread? To me, Cobras are Democrat drivers, loud and obnoxious. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I love the R7, Its forgiving long but doesn't feel very good at contact in my opinion. The weight ports don't work really for me, Â I can set it up to more right and hit it just as left as if it were on more left. The high vs Low trajectories work pretty decent but I just think it needs heavier weight plugs to really make a substantial difference. 16 - 25g plugs are what it needs to make a that difference. I have a Dela Cruz driver coming and it has 50g of weight that can be placed in different parts.I'm not going to be buying a tour R7 because I need a .5 - square face angle, the most i will do is wait for the TP M.A.X version from Japan. Thats right i play non conforming drivers, I have no handicap, and don't enter any tourneys so High C.O.R does not conflict with the system in regards to me. i think to use the weight effectively u need to have a neutral ball flight. i looked at the tm web page on press releases and it stated that the r7 was for good golfers with high swing speeds. i think this mean some one who hits hooks then slices the next if u hit a ball with relatively low side spin the weights will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I love the R7, Its forgiving long but doesn't feel very good at contact in my opinion. The weight ports don't work really for me, Â I can set it up to more right and hit it just as left as if it were on more left. The high vs Low trajectories work pretty decent but I just think it needs heavier weight plugs to really make a substantial difference. 16 - 25g plugs are what it needs to make a that difference. I have a Dela Cruz driver coming and it has 50g of weight that can be placed in different parts.I'm not going to be buying a tour R7 because I need a .5 - square face angle, the most i will do is wait for the TP M.A.X version from Japan. Thats right i play non conforming drivers, I have no handicap, and don't enter any tourneys so High C.O.R does not conflict with the system in regards to me. If the 9.5* R7 TP's are going to be square-.5 open, I won't have to buy a tour issue R7 :) ...I'll believe it when I see it though because the retail 9.5* 510tp's were closed. thats just not true my tm tp is square without a doubt i get tha6t stuff checky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I love the R7' date=' Its forgiving long but doesn't feel very good at contact in my opinion. The weight ports don't work really for me, I can set it up to more right and hit it just as left as if it were on more left. The high vs Low trajectories work pretty decent but I just think it needs heavier weight plugs to really make a substantial difference. 16 - 25g plugs are what it needs to make a that difference. I have a Dela Cruz driver coming and it has 50g of weight that can be placed in different parts.I'm not going to be buying a tour R7 because I need a .5 - square face angle, the most i will do is wait for the TP M.A.X version from Japan. Thats right i play non conforming drivers, I have no handicap, and don't enter any tourneys so High C.O.R does not conflict with the system in regards to me.[/b'] If the 9.5* R7 TP's are going to be square-.5 open, I won't have to buy a tour issue R7 :) ...I'll believe it when I see it though because the retail 9.5* 510tp's were closed. thats just not true my tm tp is square without a doubt i get tha6t stuff checky[/quote takes from tm website The r7 quad will work for players that possess the ability to repeat their swing and recognize changes in trajectory. Tour pros and low to mid handicap amateurs (zero to 18 handicap), will get the most out of the r7 quad. The head size, shape, face angle and workability are designed to work best in the hands of these types of players. "When we tested the r7 quad, the influence that the different CG positions had on players' shots became evident immediately," said Vincent. "When a player found the CG location that delivered ideal launch conditions for him, the boost that it provided in terms of distance and control was clear. At that point we knew that we had developed a technology that was meaningful and relevant. It was clear that the r7 quad permitted players to maximize the length and accuracy of their tee shots by dialing in the launch conditions that work best with their individual swing characteristics." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillypete Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 are peole still considered golfers at +18? jk HEHEHHE btw... I am barely under that line... FREAKING SHORT GAME!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 Personally, I get the heebie jeebies playing TM drivers because of Todd. I hope some day to get over it. It's like playing a Republican driver or something. Can't go there. There are lots of good drivers out there. Ya cant play TM putters because of TKS Putters...i dont understand....todds a kewl guy...give him a chance, hes a bit pricey...but those DASS putters are da bomb ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAQ Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 but it doesn't mean it's not junk or the best car on the market.You're just drinking a new flavour of Kool-Aid, hype can't survive in a niche market, that's why the masses fall for it and TM is a in everybodies bag. Junk to you. By the way, did we really have to get political in this thread? To me, Cobras are Democrat drivers, loud and obnoxious. :D :D Yes, but, if these drivers are Republican and remind you of Todd when you see them, they would have bad haircuts and poor taste in clothes. :lol: Those are the kinds of things that I would have to deal with if I played them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2golf Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 :D Yes, but, if these drivers are Republican and remind you of Todd when you see them, they would have bad haircuts and poor taste in clothes. :lol: Those are the kinds of things that I would have to deal with if I played them! We definitely have one thing in common, we both don't like the TM Pimp! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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