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Maybe, but most likely I will be happy with the di8. Its real heavy but has The flex of a 70gram shaft. Perfect

Probably another di8. I absolutely love this shaft! Or another contender would be the p9003x, I still Have faith that that shaft will redeem itself

I made the pnt 2heavier, playing the longer 41 shaft in 18 deg Sw d3.5 wow. I did not need a 3wood at all. Was using it off the tee and the Di95s feels like a different beast altogether. I could possibly be hitting this longer Than any hybrid I have ever owned, maybe even longer than my 3w. I may look for another head in 16 and use it as my 3w. Will play at 43 tour ad di8s, Heavy head 230grams. Seriously if this works which I am sure it will, will be longer Than any 3 w I have ever had BUT much much easier. Head is so so oh so small and Cute. Sold godsie my 16 and he absolutely swears by it. He's has it or 2-3 years? Can't wait for the Combo! Got a RC 16 fw and a ryoma 15.5 coming and can't wait to do another 3 way shootout!

im interested as welll.

ah i had those did not like the boxer shape of the head nor the altus shaft. i find the altus one of the worst feeling shafts. even the f6/f7m2s on my woods had the same brittle feel.

selling my old backups. these are the wedges that were part of the $2k set selling my copper and black 60* heads $200 shipped

good to know. dont get any better than this. attention to detail exemplified

i do remember, i sold the trc 17 a few months ago and the 20 about 2 weeks ago. both had the graphites and eventually the steel. from my time with them i rate them #2 behind the pnt. the rc was actually very very good. had excellent feel, great of the rough, monster of the tee. i just like the narrower sole of the pnt2. i could possibly be the only one who thinks this. if i had not known about the pnt ( ive used them for 2 years) i would still be gaming the RC. and for only $175 was worth every penny!

as i was heading for equipment equilibrium you mention one word and all falls into chaos again Ahhhhhh hearing about the crazy ute shaft has left a little void in the back of my brain. that only means unfinished business to attend too! oh what to do what to do. ive tried pretty much all the tour graphite hybrids from the states and they were all duds. how does this crazy feel? stiff as nails as crazy is known for ? the tour ad di 95s felt stiffer than a px 7.0 steel. kid you not. @Kokkee, the pnt2 is superior to the v3 imho. just like the compact shape very much.

you want another set of 2f15x? you have these already:) thought u dint like em?

had 3 sets of the protos last year, had i known. even i cant find em now. il keep an eye out for you. i built a set for my client last year 2f15 x flex. think he has them in his shaft bin. i will check

you are forgetting the 2F14 thats the missing link in your combo. think of it as the catalyst to the big bang! i kid you not that thing is a hell of a lot smoother than the 2f15 which i found to be brittle feeling , almost dg like in feel. now imagine the 2f14 to be the yeti of the nspro line, its got the exact feel of the smooth buttery ORAs , smoother than the blues, punchier while maintaining the lowish ball flight. you gotta have that.

will do as soon as i find one! what loft you want? these are getting very rare.

That an SPB shaft in your putter?

spot on observations! yeah the blues are a bit of a let down on the longer irons. thats where you would want some height. now in the mid and short irons they would be absolute seekers. i can already picture it. yeah the shimada tours will be experimented with tomorrow. i will put the lite in my 3 iron and the tour in my 4 iron. if those dont work i can always find other uses for it. i dont usually like mixing different makes in a combo but i have tried sp red in my 4,5, 502 irons sp orange 6,7,83 302 irons sp blue in my 9,pw, AF TOURS and wedges that was a lethal combo , could have subsituted the sp reds with the oranges but then again i was performing mental gymnastics on an olympic level! now a real good combo stew would be...............drumroll.............3,4,5, ora protos, 6,7,8 2F15 protos and 9,PW,WEDGES the elusive 2F14 protos that are the spb protos. heres some info i have gathered over the years and many protos later. i have had all variants except the DP and C10 2F15 - 124g-126g, Counter Balanced, More spin, higher launch, similar to 1150GH Tour's. All the weight is in the butt, 2S14 - 136g-138g, Full flex stiffer in tip section than DG X100's, 2 flexes stiffer in the Butt section. proto of Super Peening Blues. MONSTER SHAFT ORA - 127g-128g, Softer than 2S14's, quick high launch but flat trajectory. (Used by Paul Casey right now!) Tour version of Super Peening Orange with some added tech. C10 - Very similar to X100's but up about 1x stiffer flex in both the tip and the butt. Weight similar to X100's.

i had the adams idea pro a12, it is slightly larger than my adams pnt proto, actually LARGER! you gotta get your hands on a pnt and see what the fuss is about. 18* with a steel shaft is an absolute fairway splitter. you will never ever miss another fairway i kid u not. this ones a keeper. the epon is great but it obviously is intended for a different segment of players, i also think that price is too high but then again epon doesnt need to sell a lot of these as they make for others as well. i like their strategy though.

Jason, i agree, however i dont want to mess around with my 5-pw combo as they are money. therefore only the 4 iron will be used for experimentation. the spb in the 4 was quite good, feel was characteristically nspro smooth, kick was good but i want a bit more height. that was the only thing amiss. also took notes on our last exchange of pms and will also reshaft my 302 3i with the shimada tour lite. given the info i gave you regarding my spb experience in #4 should i go the tour or the tour lite on 4?

thanks mate! reshafted my 4i yesterday with SPB. awesome! but something seems to be missing, prefer the modus honestly. i will however reshaft it again with a shimada tour 120 to see what the fuss is about haha

funny youd ask, my shafts were spined and they lined up exactly where the logos are centered. coincidence? maybe. but i have built several sets and most were the same, especially in the modus and the peenings. spining is time consuming, and a company like nspro cant possibly spine every single shaft that comes out of the factory. theyr tolerances are pretty good though i must say

last tuesday i decided to make a little experiment as 3 of the clubs were not shafted. i have also been wanting to do this type of experiment for some time now and decided now was the time as the wishon head was going to be sold and my dad had his 18* re-shafted( had two additional days to play with the head and see if my original assumptions were still valid) also wanted to see if my all time favorite hybrid head can keep up with the old(wishon) and new(epon). before i go any further let me introduce the participants. #1 is an Old skool wishon driving iron 2i head. this is completely made of carpenter steel. tough, rigid and very heavy. this is the same material used in the kasco clubs pre super hyten. these are very durable and contain absolutely no composite parts. feel is on the hard side but this one feels significantly the most iron like of the bunch. a good thing if you ask me. #2 is one of my all time favorite hybrids. the very much coveted and iconic adams PNT tour issue. these never made it into retail and is for tour use only. they come in 16,18,22,24,26 deg heads. in fact i had a 16* i sold to Goodsie and he absolutely swears by it. ive tried a lot of hybrids and this is tops. very very small compact head, punchy, heavy. love the look at address( some may find it intimidating and disconcerting due to the smallish size) but some would consider in a +. im one of those that love the shape. nice and clean! as you can see, its significantly smaller than the epon hyrbid and deeper too. i would consider the epon to be a cross between a fw and a hybrid, the adams is a pure hybrid. you can also see that the sole of the epon has a flatter wider surface area , this is a great bonus for those that are sweepers the adams has a cut away section which minimizes the sole, you can hit hard and down on this baby! #3 is the Epon 902. already much talk about this club so doesnt need much introduction. now here is what i did, i reshafted the wishon 18 with a dynamic gold sl 300 XP shaft. this is basically a lighter s300 with a lower kickpoint to effectively launch the ball higher. basically high launch. shafted and played at 40.25. the epon is playing longer at 41" and shafted with a machline fw75 fairway wood shaft. the adams is also playing at 41" and shafted with a super heavy DI95S tour ad hybrid shaft. playing yesterday, alone in the rain, soggy damp fairways, wet weather gear on and very slippery grips i made an interesting discovery. all three clubs performed stellarly but in the end i had the best success with the 12 year old wishon driving iron. everything about it worked. i attribute this to the steel shaft! the epon was great off the tee, the longest of the bunch, ballistic missle, trampoline like effect paired with the very smooth kicking machline fw75 shaft. i liked this the best amongst the bunch for pure teebox sessions. of the deck i did not fair so well due to the wider sole. as i mentioned before i have a steep angle of attack and need to work on my swing. for now any hybrid with a wide sole wont work for me. i dont carry woods at the moment while im working on my swing. The wishon and the Adams werent the longest off the tee but they were dead straight! the wishon straighter and more stinger-ish due to the steel shaft. both were great from the fairway but i just hit the adams purer. no need to adjust the swing, can basically play it like an iron and compress the ball. i however did not enjoy the tour ad di 95s shaft. it was very stiff. almost too taught to be called an S, plays like an X. the steel s300 shaft felt like a marshmallow compared to the DI. i love steel shafts on hybrids, absolutely love it! dont expect to get oodles of carry and height but you will most certainly be where you aim your ball. i love my irons , love the feel of steel, made sense to do the same with the brids. ive tried every multitude of graphite shaft, i actually like softer feeling heavier graphite shafts. anything in the 95-105gram region is way too taught. steel of heavier weight will play softer which is the punchy feel i am looking for. i havent changed my epon 901 ever since i shafted it with a high launching nspro 950 HT shaft. months ago i reshafted my 17 and 20* trcs with nspro950, they were big improvements for me over the upgraded graphites i paid for, in the end though the sole of the TRCS were still to wide for my tastes despite the twin rail cavities. i would love to give the TRCs another shot in the near future. for now though i love the PNT Tour issue proto i know its a usdm product, may not feel as soft but i love the small compact shape and deeper face. i hope some JDM brands come out with a similar sized head. i will be pulling the tour ad DI and pairing it with a Shimada tour LITE s flex shaft. that would be an awesome combo! hope the weather clears for my weekend experimentation! Cheers!

Sold. had one last go with this yesterday at the course, complete fairway splitter ! i will miss the club!

putter looks nice. has to be for the price!

I'm going to post a 3 way hybrid review Tom. All 18s with different shafts. Interesting findings for me

gave it to my dad, he is using it as a 5w replacement. he loves it.

i have had and tried the hybrids you mentioned. had a 17 and 20 trc and an 18 epon. edge goes to the epon but then again it dint work for my type of swing. im actually using my 3 year old driving iron with better success. must fix the swing before i give full fledged hybrids another go.