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Not sure if anyone is aware but you can install your shaft not fully inserted and use a cork in the gap to have your shaft play different. This goes for all Jbeam hosels.

TW717 is made of totally different materials, doesn't look like Endo made that one.

TW727 460 Driver - Naturally the most forgiving model in the line Honma has designed it around straight and higher launching shots with mid spin. So figure mid spin/higher launch, It features a lower and further back center of gravity compared to the other Honma TW727 drivers, it's got a shallow back which stabilizes spin for a tighter dispersion the MOI is also higher than the smaller four heads as well. I will be posting brief impressions on all of Honma's new products over the coming weeks. So first thing to note is that each of the TW727 series drivers are unique from each other, each shape and shape and weight location is different they are not simply the same driver in different sizes. As you can see in the above photo it's still a fairly deep face but the 460 extends further heel to toe than the others it also tapers quickly near the sole making it the most shallow of the bunch. This was evident in our testing where compared against the others ( 430/455/455S ) it had the higher launch, the feel was slightly more hallow but the more rounded shape and the size made you feel like you could swing harder. Just remember harder hitters who have swings that produce more swing should look at some of the lower spin versions, while the TW727 460 is the biggest remember it's still a Tour World Product, this is by no means for high handicappers although they could use it, it's still for Tour World type player which is what Honma would consider athlete, If you look on the JPGA tour many females and senior players have the 460 on Tour. The face is square but our players who are excellent a couple of them are golf pro's (instructors) felt there was indeed a draw bias and while it's not mentioned in any descriptions I believed that true myself because of the heel weight and on the topics of weight you will notice this 460 has the weight furthest back of all the models which tells you a lot about how it will play, higher, more MOI and more forgiving. So for the tech, I've explained it before these are made by Endo then completed at Honma's amazing Sakata Studio where via TSG we can also offer face angle, lie, and even matte black finish adjustments but bottom line is that it's new manufacturing process in the 455/455S/460 has improved significantly with Honma's proprietary process called W-Forged, The goal was to make a firmer face feel very soft and they did this through variable face thickness and a new forging method which in the end has a tighter material fiber across the face so the face is stronger, the sweet spot is larger and it feels more pure at impact. So after 2 rounds and 3 range sessions all of us walked away with similar feedback, It's definitely quality, it feels really good, the spin isn't too much it's mid range and the launch is high, for a smooth powerful swing it should do the trick very well. Distance depends on the player and conditions of course but for me it's as long as anything out there, the sound is slightly hollow but the face vibrates very nicely, all around an easy choice for a good player with a less aggressive tempo. I could easily play this one in a heartbeat and it would help my score BUT I'm not a smooth swinger so I think one of the others could do my game better.

+1 this is where something got lost in translation, only the white logo version was supposed to have the red trim, the black was supposed to be all stealth, Only producing 4 bags is silly expensive these are more for promotional use but I can sell 2 of them and they are already in the states. I think it's also a little busy, almost too Japanese looking with that giant Kanji, the next version should be better.

Show us that link RL.

First edition only 4pcs made. Not entirely happy with the way they came out but the quality is top notch.

Endo makes the base driver & irons and Sakata finishes it. It is widely known inside the Japan Golf Industry that Endo drivers don't have the best distance and it's because the face is too soft, so Honma has a proprietary process they have Endo manufacture called W-Forged which is basically a firmer version of ELF Ti. The 455/455S/460 are made by Endo but the pro's want firmer so the 430 is made at Sakata. They also work with other makers in Japan then finish the clubs in house. Shafts as well, i.e for some but not all Quadra buys prepreg, collaborates with honma on the axis weave then Honma finishes the process and hand rolls the shaft themselves in Sakata.

If you want Endo's best go with the new TW727 Honma Drivers.

Only trackman for about 20 minutes which isn't my norm for testing. I need to play it on my home track at my range to get a better idea.

+1 on control shaft, heavy, boardy if not in the right flex, likes to go straight.

Modart heads have no problems finding the right shaft, have tried many and results great across the board. I loved the S, but everyone orders the D.

I talk to them almost daily, they design and make the shafts in house also they are not a shaft painting company. Put all bamboo & frills aside they are doing a good thing using 50T reinforced by 80T in particular areas to make a shaft that flexes yet has stability that imo is better than just making a full length 80T shaft. Yes they mean Grams not KG..lol that would be pretty heavy wouldn't it.

I'm with you Craig and find it so strange I hit some of my longest ever with it but at the same time it got me in a lot of trouble and consistently yet as you mentioned there are some people that find it forgiving, long, and straight.

If it sits in the bank I will spend it so it's safer here ;)

The blind swordsman strikes again... So what's new for Ryoma in 2015? The Beyond Power Driver, actually shaft and it's pretty wild, first thing to note is it's infinity flex, what's that you say? It's a shaft that works for which works for any golfer between 67mph to 111mph!! It's supposed to increase club head speed on average 2.7mph and combined with the non conforming special tune head it's a 20% increase in distance over a normal driver. Now we have members who didn't care for the Maxima but we have far many more clients who love it and they still sell frequently. Also new in 2015 is 3 new lofts in the UT, 2U/18, 6U/30, and 7U/34*

Hey Jeffrey, Email me [email protected] we will help you out!

That circle T putter is actually for a customer who removed the weights from his scotty circle T and requested GF make a putter that had only circle T on it so those are only scotty weights not the actual putter. I really loved that look but man those T weights are ala carte pricey.

So while he did tell me this the truth is the two are technically not the same due to the changes, I had to poke to find out how it was different but after I would say "so it is a different material" or "so it's a little bigger" he would say "yes but looks the same right?". The consumer want's new and different while the designer is proud of his original work. Here is the face, looks like the D shape.

I haven't hit it yet, we are working together on new aesthetics and designs that would appeal to TSGers first then we wait 3 months for the samples to shoot. We are also slightly tweaking specs on a couple of the models. So in time we will know more but still 7D is on another level.

The bubble does nothing it's purely aesthetic and runs down the entire shaft like the look of natural bamboo.

Been a while since I posted a GF update...

So while it looks similar (consider this an evolution) there are some major changes all around starting with the head size, the new "DS" is 5 cc's bigger at 440cc, Modart also changed the face material to Japan SP700 for a slightly softer forged cup face feel at impact while at the same time shifting the center of gravity more forward not only making it more workable but also reducing spin. It's finished in a lovely matte black finish.

Yes that must be it! No word on specs or release yet.

Yes they look very cool but don't perform or feel very well. Originally they were adjustable part drivers used for fitting and they kept that concept alive which I like but when I hit one and this isn't only my opinion it feels like it's more than 1 piece or there's something not sealed which could mean lost energy where as a Monocoque head or a driver that is made completely sealed has a more pure vibration/feel/sound to it if that makes sense. It all looks really good but even in Japan it's not considered a top performer.

I love the S-013D by TRPX it is similar to the 535 imo in spin and launch. Low Spin / Mid Launch for this guy imo. ZY-11 with an 8-8.5* loft would be another way he can have low spin/mid launch while in a head that's more forgiving than the 435 Black.