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The show was crap... again. Big and pretty but nothing new other than some copper finished Mizunos which TSG clubworks can do on any iron. Show lacked knowledge other than what OEMs feed media. Everything Hypey, no emphasis on quality clubs or tech. more than half the show is apparel. All the clubs there are sold at PGA superstore already and we knew they were coming... everyones all dressed up in blazers. trying to find anyone at the booths who know anything other than generic marketing lingo is not possible. bummer! cant wait for Japan. I love see’ing factory uniforms on the dance floor. We need to create our own show for small brands. doesnt have to be JDM but small US makers too. I can get behind those who care, I cant stand employees who dont know shit or care to learn. clock out and go home. gonna skip tomorrow and fly out early. Was nice to hang with T thou. miss that guy.

My Issue with this logic is if a JDM brand has any dealers in the states is it no longer JDM and then would you consider it USDM? The U.S equipment industry to me is super generic and corporate. All the stores sell the same stuff. Heck look at mygolfspy, wrx, hackersparadise they are on the OEM media circuit fed info and told when to release it. In the pockets of the brand without getting paid...lol I guess they enjoy getting paid with info and free samples and not $$$.

Will do!

and 1 for one of the worlds biggest USDM brands... shh 😬 First one drops for KYOEI in a couple of days, then another and so on until March. A few more for SEVEN in March.

Last year I went. This year going again. Non-Exhibitor While the US Show is bigger there are never any surprises like at the Japan Show. I'll say hi to Tario (onoff) and Tat's(pxg) for you guys. Shall I cover the U.S PGA Show for giggles?

Yea so as Nob's says lines are blurred. KYOEI - owned and designed by the most handsome man who lives in USA 😉 while being made, finished and shipped from Japan - I consider JDM Honma is Chinese owned and made in China but finished yet originated in Japan - I consider this JDM. Titleist is Korean owned and made in China but originally from USA - I consider USDM Cleveland is Japan owned and made in China but originally from USA - I consider USDM SEVEN - owned and designed by the most handsome man who lives in USA 😉 while being made, finished and shipped from Japan - I consider JDM So we can't really go by who owns it. We can't really go by where it is made. We also can't go by where it was founded? Once we can determine a criteria I can post that as a sticky.

That's the thing though, I don't agree there is a "proper" shaft frequency for anything. I like many believe shaft frequency CPM's is NOT a good way to measure flex or shaft performance.

I'm hearing people say JDM vs USDM. But what are JDM and USDM exactly? Technically it means Japan Domestic Market & US Domestic Market. All the Taylormade, Callaway, Titleist etc.. clubs are sold on the Japan Domestic Market too. Is the Taylormade SIM or Callaway Mavrik USDM or JDM? Do you go by who owns the co? Well TM used to be German, Titleist is Korean and now days brands get funding from investors all over the globe. Now consider that the single country that owns the most brands both big and small is Japan with USA coming in at second. Japanese brands are usually funded by Japanese banks. US brands are usually funded by global investors. We can't go by where its made as majority of all clubs are made in China. How do you guys wanna break this down in the future?

I'd love to see the ball speeds of PRGR vs some of the bigger name brands. Yokohama rubber co has some serious tech.

Everyone should try it. It does teach the golfer what type of numbers they produce and puts their strengths and flaws in view. I like fittings most to find my distance gaps. I have had a half dozen fittings, I used to do 6 hour fittings myself when we had retail stores in Cali. That said we have customers almost daily dump full fit sets for not fit sets and often shoot better scores but usually always enjoy more. None of our customers who know gear well and what works for them get fittings anymore. Basics = loft/lie/length/swing weight/grip size. Many more educated players already know what type of shafts work best for their swing, weight, flex, bend profile and sometimes materials. Then the business side of fittings. duplicatable process, cookie cutter, anyone can be taught to do fittings and the worse thing is customers walk out of stores with the fitters preferred brands. I started this game with fitters who could fit with their eyes. way more valuable as they see the entire picture. I support fittings especially for the masses who don't know their usual spin rates, launch angles and dispersion etc. What is most important to you in this game? Score? having fun? drinking or gambling? relaxing? How to put a numeric value on feel? shape? quality? materials and where it's made?

Yes I have a set of those callaway's by Miura in hand now. It's the MB-5003. Nope that's always been the trend. Every global model is a Giken model released years later. sometimes a tiny spec bump but essentially the same. The bottom line on Tb-Zero is it's their newest blade, short irons are shaped a little better than the MB-5003 which was always their best blade. The baby blade, 1957, Tourney or whatever you call them are all the same heads just different names...sad. They are also 20 year old molds. Miura Global leans on Giken to design the clubs. Giken always gets the best first. That said Miura's weak point has always been 8/9/PW shapes. A bit chunky in the neck.

I hope to try the latest plastic putters and gimmicked out drivers to realize all I want is a stainless or carbon putter and a non-adjustable driver with an SP700 or DAT55G face.

No ego chart sorry. You can just specify what you want and we can quote you on it. Yes we do sell MG but in the background out of respect for Miura Global. TB-Zero no doubt their best blade. Likely Miura Global's next MB 3-5 years from now. MB-5003 is MB-101 By the way I just got a set of 2019 Callaway MB's brand new made by Miura 🙂

Unfortunately I won't be doing those types of comparison videos that much so relying on other forum members for this is key. I will say don't put much weight in others opinions about golf clubs. Too many variables. Players need to spend more time learning how to fit themselves, its really easy to figure out comparisons when you consider, size, shape, material, 1 vs 2 piece, specs, the brand's other clubs etc.. We have all bought enough clubs to be able to understand what works and what doesn't for ourselves. Breaking down Yamaha vs Miura vs Epon vs PRGR on paper is more accurate than an actual fitting or video comparison. The logic is clear. 1 piece is smaller heads, feels better, is usually more workable, is not as long or forgiving. then cross reference the size of the club heads, the tech used and what irons it competes against, the tech, materials and specs speak volumes. Then on another level consider where it's made and how. Fittings are a joke now days. It's daily that people get full club fittings at say a club champion or PXG then a couple months later switch because what was longest, most forgiving, most accurate in the fitting doesn't play out the same way on course. Fitting is a cookie cutter process based on the same LM numbers, It's duplicatable so if one guy leaves another employee can be taught to do it. the same old fitting brands and sales strategies.. No mastery whatsoever. I long for the days fitting was done with experience and eye balls. Now everyone is an expert at everything online with no credentials. sorry about the rant.

Modus for me! same reason as you guys, feels smoother and especially in winter! I also notice going down in weight or flex with Modus doesn't cause the same timing at impact issues as it does with Shimadas and others.

Sorry bud, I gotta take these pics for you. email is the best way.

Hey guys, Thank you. What I meant for the forum is a general direction, keep it, lose it, hire someone to flow our other content into it, any moderators wanna work with us? Since social media it's hard to allocate time to forums as it's becoming an antiquated platform with fewer views. While the forum members are the most vocal and hardcore in our industry it's also difficult to spend time constantly dealing with the opinions, info both good and bad and the drama involved in these types of forums. We are going to put more effort into: Social Media Blog Posts You Tube Videos Then possibly one of you fine gents can help us add those things to this forum and moderate? I would compensate. Sorry guys not much time but that's one way to get fresh stuff in here. Last night our staff updated the forum software, added new Anti-spam and did a little cleaning. Sorry about the mess recently. Anyone wanna buy some Viagra? lol

Very sorry guys, I don't log in very often anymore. Working on updating the forum and figuring out what direction to take it. Any advice or suggestions is appreciated.

I agree I think a draw biased head with a couple of anti left characteristics is more user-friendly. Face angle & shaft selection is a good place to start.

Just to make a few things clear. 1. Mizuno never forged its own clubs. It is done by a separate company in Chuo that specializes in manufacturing train parts. Today the majority has shifted to China. 2. Japan forged clubs are not made like Japanese swords. Please slap anyone who uses the sword thing to market golf clubs. 3. The 2 putters in the images shown in the link are the exact same 2 open model putter designs available for decades. I have no skin in this game, just letting ya fellas know.

These are the same guys who own Vega, Shimada Global, etc.. PGE Europe. They use Kyoei forgings to produce these outside of Japan. Would you like to see these in the proshop?

http://blog.tourspecgolf.com/

Your welcome!

Yes, that was awesome! I love when he wins! Class act all around AND he has fantastic taste in watches ?

Yes this driver is awesome for kids. There is some wins for a 9 year old girl in Japan actually. some info Geotech sent me: