Everything posted by nobmontana
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New Yamaha Tours 2022
You got all the translations correct Stu-san. I doubt these heads are actually made in Japan. If you look at the specs and footnotes one the other non-tourmodel VD and VD40 they also say - "Club: Made in Japan. " which leads me to believe they are putting "Made in Japan" on everything when they are actually not. But Seriously? why "VD?" I learned in a special Physical Ed. session during high school that "VD" meant something very different!! :( With this new release, the previous model RMX 020 will hopefully go down in price on the used market! I've kinda been eyeing on them.
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
I actually prefer the shape of the Single Clover... the face is a bit deeper and the toe area is rounded more. Reminded me very much of the Grandista RSD I played a couple of seasons ago. The Triple Clover is a bit more like a Titleist D2 shape. a bit stretched towards the back and slightly shallow face. I thought I was going to really like the Triple more based on pictures .. but in hand I liked the Single more. Honestly, I could probably game ether one really. It's interesting to compare the shape of the two PRGR heads against the Mavrik Sub Zero Triple Diamond which in their own words is supposed to be a 'Shape preferred by tour players' Single Clover took the toe shape of the the Cally and Triple Clover took the back half it seems.
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Tour AD PT High Modulus
Man, seems like I've been really slow to the band wagon this year! Back in March '21, Graphite Design released a Japan only limited edition Tour AD PT High Modulus shaft and I am just learning about it. Basically it is positioned to be the successor to one of their longest seller Tour AD PT ( Think Blue Board type profile ) but uses updated/higher grade material including 80T carbon fiber as well as Toray's T1100G around the tip section. Saw some Youtube videos a few weeks ago where they compare this shaft against Mitsubishi Tensei 1K as well as Diamana D-Limited. Though it is a mid launch, it appears that this shaft provides very low spin. Since my all time favorite is the Kurokage '13 which is a mid launch shaft, I decided that I need to get one of these shafts in 6S and try it out. Should arrive in the net couple of weeks. One I have it, I will compare this against my D-limited shaft.
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
My RSF Single Clover head arrived last week and I tried it with the Loop GK SX, Kurokage '13 60S, Tour AD XC 6S and Accra TZ5 55 M3 Kurokage '13 is at 45.5" and the swing weight was D7... just a bit too heavy. and I don't have adjustable weights for these heads. Loop, XC and Accra all came out to be 45" length wise and around D3.5 to D4. right about where I like them. - I had the best results with the Loop GK SX. Low to Mid trajectory, easy to control left and right. really heavy and dense feel at impact. - Kurokage '13 was just too long for the head weight. Will continue to use it for my 2016 RSF head. - Accra and XC were both good but it did not Wow me over the Loop GK shaft. I feel like I can confidently take this RSF Single Clover + Loop GK combo to a narrow technical course where good level of precision/control is required. And as a bonus, this head is as anti left as a head can be. The Triple Clover head more or less plays similar but with slightly more emphasis on straighter shots. If you were to describe the Single Clover like a muscle back, the Triple Clover plays like a half cavity back. Sticking with the Single Clover. The Triple Clover head will be posted on BST later this week. *** ↓↓↓ Single Clover at address ↓↓↓ Single Clover sole ↓↓↓Loop GK front ↓↓↓ Look GK back ↓↓↓ Single Clover Logo ↓↓↓ RS-F Prototype Triple Clover from top ↓↓↓ RS-F Prototype Single Clover from top ↓↓↓ RS-F Single Clover on left , Mavrik Triple Diamond on right ↓↓↓ RS-F Triple Clover on left , Mavrik Triple Diamond on right ↓↓↓ All three heads.
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Diamana D-Limited - silky smooth!
I tried a few of the shafts that I currently own including the D-Limited in the RSF single clover and though they all performed well. The Loop GK that I previously used in my Grandista RSD came out as the best match with this head. RSF Single Clover + Loop GK is one tasty combo. For my very first round with this combo last Saturday, I hit 13/14 fairways during a Tip and Tuck tournament. The one I missed was on me for putting a very bad swing where I tried to make a strong draw and over doing it. I could go with the D-Limited but I really like the Loop in this head. So my D-Limited shaft is still seeking a head to partner with. The RSF Triple Clover was definitely a good candidate but it's too similar to the Single Clover in how it plays and I need a different type of driver in my arsenal. Since the RSF + Loop is a lower trajectory fairway runner suited better for Summer conditions, I want to try a different head that will give me optimal carry distance since we are going into winter season with almost no roll on the fairway.
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utility shafts . whats the order of best to best val ?
I have a couple of hybrids in the bag. One with a Diamond Speeder HB and the other just built with UST Mamiya Lin-Q hybrid. Both very good shafts. Also Ventus HB with Velocore is another excellent hybrid shaft.
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JigenErook ll driver
I almost pulled the trigger on their first Erook driver ... nice shape at address and from what I have read, they are very good performing heads. This new one, construction wise, looks similar to the TR20 driver from Honma with the entire back half of the head being one piece carbon fiber shell. Pretty amazing on what they can do with carbon fiber molding/shaping these days. With JDM Boutique equipment you definitely get a higher sense of owning something special that no one else around you would have.
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
I received the Triple Clover driver head as well as 3wood and 4UT on Friday. took them out to the range so I'd have at least a quick hit before my round this morning. The RSF Triple Clover driver is no joke. possibly the most edgy type of driver head from PRGR as a proper successor to the 2016 1st gen RS-F. RS-F '17 was good but RS-F '18 became tamed too much and the '20 RS5 was mediocre. Glad to see there are some spirited soul left at PRGR to bring back true "player's " type clubs. I played 18 holes with my trusty'13 Kurokage Proto 60 S shaft in it this morning and it felt pretty good. Straight shots, low-mid trajectory, very controllable with very good distance. absolutely no fear of the left!! Sound and feel were very nice too. Then after the round, I went back to the range to try the Loop GK shaft which is probably a more low launch/low spin shaft compared to the Kurokage '13 Proto. And boy, the low spin character of the head really showed up with this combo. It may be too low spin head for me to use at 9.5 deg loft. May need to loft up to 10.5 deg. I'm still waiting on the Single Clover head ... so I will be doing a lot of testing over the next couple of weeks and ultimately leave myself with only one of these driver heads. First impression is quite positive!! As for the Fairway and UT, while the range session was fine, I didn't get along on the course as well as I had hoped. They are not ready for prime time yet. I'll give a few more tries ... but right now, I feel the Epic Speed fairway and Mavrik hybrid may be the better playing woods for me.
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
Draw bias issue is fixed!! All I had to do was to heat up the heel area with a heat gun and got it hot enough so that the hot melt started to flow inside (guessing) . then I let it cool with the toe side down... let gravity do its magic. Took it out to the range and the draw bias is completely gone now!! love it! Second range session: Trajectory: Tie ... both very straight and neutral ! Distance: Tie Forgiveness: Epic = 4.5 vs RS5 = 5 ( not a huge difference ) Sound and Feel: Epic = 4.5 vs RS5 = 5 ( not a huge difference ) Looks at address: Epic = 4 vs RS5 = 5 ( RS5 looks much cleaner and friendlier ) RS5 wins !!!
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
I got my RS5 5W yesterday and I had a chance to do a quick head to head against an Epic Speed 4W. I had a Kurokage 60X in the Epic and a Loop FW6TS SX (yes the one I was trying to sell the other day) in the RS5. For the RS5, I had to add about 7g of hot melt to get to a 42.5" length and D2.5 swing weight which is about the same build spec as the Epic. As a side note, this was actually my first time to do a hot melt on my own and so I believe the majority of the weight ended up near the hosel where I injected the glue. Not sure if that was the cause, but I ended up hitting a lot of rather strong draws with the RS5. The Epic was really straight. I'll need to adjust the hot melt position by heating up the head to move the glue more towards the toe and see if that does the trick. if that does not work, I'll try a different shaft.. either the same Kurokage or an I'lima that I have sitting around. The draw can also be caused by the more upright lie angle of the RS5 57.5 deg vs Epic 56 deg.... I occasionally hit the Epic 4W to the right as my miss so maybe its not a bad thing having a slight draw. Other than the slightly too much draw that I was getting, I thought the performance was outstanding with the RS5. The "Slash Groove" ( trench on the sole ) construction really helps get the ball up in the air even on misses low on the face which is great because that is always usually my miss on fairway woods off the deck. The sound and feel was a bit more hotter than the Epic in a good way.... but still quite muted probably due to the hot melt that I added. The Epic is very quiet and possibly a bit too muted. Looks wise, as Supo says the RS5 is a bit triangular and slightly larger footprint than the Epic, however, it reminds me of the old Taylormade V Steel which I gamed or a long time, and it does look a lot more friendlier and easier to hit. Looking at the most recent Titleist TSi fairway woods, they are somewhat triangular as well.. Epic is a traditional compact pear shape head which looks very playable but at the same time a bit more intimidating and its got ugly chevron alignment aid and lip lines. 😞 on this first test: Trajectory: Epic = 5 vs RS5 = 3 ( due to the draw bias on the RS5 ) Distance: Tie ( I mean they are both long based on loft.. 16.5 Epic speed is slightly longer due to loft ) Forgiveness: Epic = 4.5 vs RS5 = 5 ( not a huge difference ) Sound and Feel: Epic = 4.5 vs RS5 = 5 ( not a huge difference ) Looks at address: Epic = 4 vs RS5 = 5 ( RS5 looks much cleaner and friendlier ) So at the moment, the two clubs are at a tie. 🙂 Once the draw bias issue can hopefully be eliminated or reduced, I can happily replace the Epic Speed fairway (which is an excellent performing fairway wood BTW )
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
OK call me crazy but I took the plunge and picked up each of these heads last weekend. Should arrive later this week. Also picked up a PRGR RS5 3W, 5W and a 4H to test against my current gamers ( Cally Epic Speed FWs and Mavrik Hybrid ) Just gotta have matching woods ya know!! 🙂 I've sold my SIM2 driver and been on the search for a new driver and tested a few Epic Speed Triple Diamond heads as well as a Mavrik 440 ... I mean they all felt great and was pretty forgiving.. but none really got me excited. In the mean time, I've been using my backup driver which is a 2016 Tour Issue PRGR RS-F and I really enjoyed hitting this thing!! I can hit it as long as any of the new USDM heads and it's nearly as forgiving as the latest USDM heads.... I get much clearer feedback with the PRGR than with any USDM driver which effectively feel the same no matter where on the face you hit it. The more I used the PRGR driver, the more I thought about trying their latest and greatest. Plus, I like the fact that PRGR does not have any alignment aid on their woods. Minor issue perhaps, but it does matter to me. I'll provide reviews for each of the clubs sometime next week!! I "may" have a full JDM bag again next week!!! can't wait!!
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Kyoei irons - which model are these?
Happy to help!! yes the Kurozome finish to my understanding is effectively a Black Oxide finish which is the closest thing to an actual raw head. You get the full softness of the Mild Carbon Steel whereas chrome plated heads are typically that much firmer at impact. If you don't mind the rusty looks after a while, can't beat the feel you get from these!! The proper back spin you get from these heads are nothing short of amazing.
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Kyoei irons - which model are these?
Original Kyoei KK MB with the Kurozome finish and 5 cut sole. Likely one of the earlier models that did not have the "KYOEI" logo on the back.
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Sold.
very nice combo
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Modart MA01F 14deg head, D-Limited, MFusion shafts
Most beautifully shaped fairway wood ever.. period!
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Has anyone tried the PRGR RSF Prototype Single Clover or Triple Clover?
Yeah... PRGR did a copy cat thing from Callaway in producing special edition driver heads. Instead of Diamonds, they used "Clover" 🙂 Been reading up on these two bad boys. Single Clover looks to be a more deeper head with smaller profile at address. Triple Clover seems to be the shallower type. Both very hot and low spin. They both feature forward CG and a more open face angle (5 deg open) . Only comes in 10.5 loft and still uses the BACOSY adjustable hosel system. From what I can tell, these heads are only available through direct PRGR shops in Japan as well as their fitting vans. Im starting to see these heads making its way into auction sites. I badly want to try the single Clover🍀
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Found
Your "greatest hits" bag is giving me some clues for my next set to build. 🙂 Looking into JDM woods again.
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Found
Bro, with the Zen and now the T.388 looks like you are building yourself a 2010 era ultimate JDM bag! With that putter and Driver, a sweet set of blades would match up nicely I think!
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PRGR SR irons
here is a link to the spec sheet. https://www.prgr-golf.com/archive_clubs/I-107-rs-titanface-iron.html Club #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 Pw Aw Sw Loft 24 27 30 34 38 43 50/8 56/10 Lie 62 62.5 63 63.5 64 64.5 64.5 64.5 Length 38 37.5 37 36.5 36 35.5 35.5 35.5 If the shaft and grips are all original, it is likely that you measured them incorrectly.
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PRGR SR irons
What model are they?
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Questions on reshafting an Epon zen putter
ah.. ok makes sense.
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Questions on reshafting an Epon zen putter
For saving ferrules, there is a product called "Club Shield Paste Gel" from golf works that's supposed to work well.
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Questions on reshafting an Epon zen putter
I'm not a fan of reaming out hosels personally... typically ends up with the hole being off centered unless you have the right equipment. With graphite shafts with enough wall thickness, I think sanding down the shaft tip is easier and the right way to do it. Fujikura recommends this for their Ventus HB shafts which are .370 to be sanded down to .355 in case you want to use the shaft for driving irons. If you are dealing with 60g iron shafts or something, that's a different story. The Dogatti shaft is a 135g graphite putter shaft... the tip section only has a small bore so the shaft can be sanded down without any worries of the integrity of the tip section. Plus it's for a putter and hopefully, you're not putting a full swing:) unless you are demonstrating to hit your putter 300 yards like Jamie Sadlowski used to do.
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Modart MA01F 14deg head, D-Limited, MFusion shafts
Hey Ian, Not sure of the club length with the Mizuno head ... but with a bonded hosel head (Epic Speed), it was at around 42.5" An issue you may have with Mizuno adapters is that the prepped area of the tip needs to be quite short for a clean finish.... similar to Cobra or Ping adapters, the insertion length is short. The shaft has been tipped .5" Comparing to Diamana's I would say the Loop FW Six TS is right in between a Blue profile and White Profile. Mid-Low launch / Mid-Low spin. Feel wise, Loop shafts are kind of unique in that it produces a dense and heavy feel at impact. Kurokage 2013 Proto is similar in that regard which is another great fairway wood shaft! It's a really a nice shaft that produces penetrating trajectory if the length matches what you need. You should go find a Mizuno 5 wood head to use with this shaft!! LOL 🙂
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These shafts are so good.