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Yes geotech consistently releases great products. The Quelot series has rave reviews from slower swingers. The muso shafts were top material and design for such a low price. I love that they make non-conforming players drivers too.

Funny that Ari, Patrick and the scratch team has gotten over this and still work together with us yet you cant get over it. I still stand by all I said. Itobori owes us $$$ and is shady as hell. You guys have it that exposing brand misinformation in a direct manner is a negative thing. Without knowing what we do and what we create for brands your easily able to pass judgment on TSG. We show up and create and have more contributions over the last 15 years than you may know.

Everyone is bias. I like my mom more than yours. So lets avoid personal swipes at me and please don't put words in my mouth and definitely do not come here if you want the same opinion you will find everywhere else. You are talking to someone who designs, manufactures, owns brands, builds brands, visits many factories each year and that many brands seek consultation from. You get that anywhere else? learn and know you don't have to agree but understand your insults will get you 86'd fast. 1. Epon is still great better than most out there incl Miura etc.. Never said it was Shit like you claim but can go on for days on things I do not agree with. You care to know where their drivers are made now? 2. Benock is the absolute best and I am willing to debate this with anyone. You have nothing just insults. Please do your best to back something up, anything? The Machines he uses, the CAD staff he has, the partnership with NSTool makes him untouchable, the ability is like no other. including The Masterful Tour Scottys. It has taken me 4 years to put this together. what are you doing? 3. Yes I did the same thing with SEVEN, stand by all of those. which one do you not agree about? So let me get this straight, I bring you the very best products, the most critical look at brands and you get salty about what I said about a brand. I am not here for your feelings sir and you should expect this at TSG. Knowing that, what the heck are you doing here? --- Benock produces the best putters in the world. SEVEN CB and MCB are some of the best-made irons in the world... FACT. my cost per head is $230 bucks. Any other brand touch this? Anyone else willing to tell you their cost and how things are actually made with no fluff? Any real questions about why? --- My motive? uh yes sell products and RAISE standards. RAISE YOUR STANDARDS! This industry is walking over the consumer like a bunch of chums and its dumbing everything down. It will end with consumers focused on buzz words, names of tech that do not matter and forgetting about the things that actually matter. What I have been trying to do is get people to focus on materials, where its made, how its made, what is better, etc.. When you buy an expensive product do you not want the very best you can get for your money? --- I am happy to talk about Miura, Scratch, Itobori, Epon, etc.. etc.. Is anything I said not true? Spin Welded hosels, Open Model heads overpriced, no 1018 sold in Japan... I hope facts don't hurt your feelings. There are many other forums for you to be and stay at. Don't come here if all you want is roses. You know what TSG is all about. Come here if you are a discerning mofo. The reasons why I am able to know and say these things is because I show up. I didnt just read it on the internet, I go there, negotiate, push our agenda, bring the products to market, influence these brands and often deliver. I fail in many relationships but when dealing with dozens of unique individuals it is expected. What are you doing other than whining in a forum you probably shouldn't be at anyway?

CGS Orions are made in Himeji. I suspect although they will not confirm this they are hand ground by Shinagawa. I can tell by the shape. They are a level up in fit and finish as they are polishing experts so their fit and finish is better than most Himeji brands. I have tried their Himeji X Tsubame Blade and it is outstanding! forgiving, soft, just well made and nice to look at. The factory they used for CNC does have the original 2-D cad work from the original Seven irons. Not saying they used it but when we left that factory to re-create it in 3-D and use full CNC there was nothing stopping them from adjusting it. I am impressed with everything they make so far. Pro Spec Wedge is pretty awesome.

I'm not sure its the jailbreak giving you more distance. More likely its everything else. CG locations, face material, shaft, basic head design.

Yes quite a few, women and men. Ive played a few rounds with it and I like it alot. its an EPIC with better feel. I would not say the feel is amazing but it definitely is good. I tried both IZ and Fuji EVO IV. Up against the Modart MA01D+R with the same EVO IV shaft it was not as good though in both feel and distance but the Forged Epic had the tighter dispersion.

For Sure! We are sold out of those so called "fake" itobori products... Glad you guys got a good deal. Anyone here thinks the ones they bought from TSG are fake?

Quelot gets pretty good reviews. Dynamic makes some pretty nice drivers. The issue is Geotech is branded as a budget JDM brand. The performance and quality is the same as so many other brands that cost more.

0 dollars. These are just the facts. Would you like to debate the merits of my claim against other brands? Please bring your argument if so. Anyone doing micro-milling? Anyone hire NS Tool? Anyone have 5 x 5Axis machines? incl miltap Who is creating 4-6 new CAD designs a day? Who is willing to make the customer a custom cad? Who is offering 3136L as a custom option? I can go on for days. What u got?

We get a lot of feedback. Tour AD and Fujikura are the safe bets. Fujikura EVO series especially then Tour AD DI which is now the IZ get great reviews as well. Anyone that comes to me wanting a mid range non botique shaft i lean EVO IV and people are happy. Diamana does not get the same feedback as GD and Fuji for some reason even though they have great design and materials. In the high-end besides the 7D and AAA the Crazy 9 is the champ.

Sold many, customer feedback has been mixed. Geotech makes this driver btw.

The thing is to me it isn't plagiarized. It is so far off from the real thing it's laughable. Its a forged open model Chinese head with CNC back face done terribly. a Chinese guy selling this for $800 bucks. Anyone who buys this thinking they are getting the real thing need help.

I dont know much about them but : HANDCRAFTED PERFORMANCE - what does this mean? “We strive to make the best shafts in the world using the most exotic materials known to man.” - They are implying that 25/40T carbon is the most exotic known to man. I cant make a true high-end shaft for under 300 cost at the factory. How do they retail one for 200 bucks which includes a big margin for the dealer. They keys for all gear is what is it made of, where is it made, who made it, what is the tech, is it original, how much does it cost to make vs its retail price.. those are good indicators of a quality product.

These guys need to stop. It hurts everyone, the industry, and consumer. There is already too much bull shit going on and brands are not willing to provide answers. We need to stop this. Please hold brands accountable when you see them doing shady stuff.

The very first fake SEVEN clubs from China! Whoohoo! I'm flattered!

No advantage. These hairs are too thin to split.

And they are not even registered businesses in Japan or Korea. This is all pretend folks, move on. They are good at creating hype out of nothing.

It's a website, it was already worldwide. A simple language tab or google translate does the same thing. Remember MGS is a bunch of writers and bloggers. This is mainstream golf blogging for the average enthusiast. Buy every #1 club they suggest and you will still play the same and end up buying new ones shortly after. Try it, fill your bag with all the #1 products they promote as best then see how happy you are.

That is the base model Chirico - http://benockgolf.com/products/chirico/ In its base form as shown on the website it is 1200 Shipped. But you can delete, add, change, adjust the design, change the neck, raise the toe, do whatever you want. I have played my last 2 rounds with this exact putter : One of my favorite shapes and the optional alignment shown big time helps me.

He says its the SEVEN CB because it is full CNC.

The classic 350 is extremely demanding. My suggestion is the 420cc new Baldo we are adding to the store soon.

Some AW Love... P.S we are making SW and LW matching wedges for the CB and MCB. CB Below

Its a no-brainer what Jun-Okudas favorite Iron set is...

Micro Milling is a big deal, when you perform larger milling using a larger diameter milling bit, it creates higher levels of residual stress in the metal material. The material will become susceptible to effects of aging. When milling is performed in small amount at a time at higher speeds, there is less accumulation of residual stress on the material. In particular, for the face milling, using the more traditional face mill or flat-end mil processes it is actually harder to achieve precise flatness. We make thin mills using smaller ball end mill at higher speeds to increase the flatness. Just look at his work: