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I haven't tried hitting a driver off the deck for years.... after I hit a low screamer that barely left the ground and almost killed someone two fairways to my right....

No doubt an exception to every rule. I wish I was the exception along with you. Unfortunately I don't have the swing speed for it, but then they weren't making it for guys like me. Just like the AF103 is. What shaft are you playing in it?

I think once you get the S-yard at the playing weight that works best, a couple more rounds.... going to be hard to beat. I swear it just gets better with every round.. standing by for updates.

Anyone compare the 2013 against the previous model?

makes sense to me Do we have a ship date yet??

While the driver does offer some level of forgiveness, it is a players driver. It is not even close to a Ryoma like forgiveness. If you need a forgiving driver I'd buy something else. this driver is about workability and distance in a smaller package with reasonable forgiveness for it's size.

After having one of those days.... I tell myself that I couldn't have any good days if I didn't have a bad day. that make any sense??

I would say the Zero was certainly not made for the mainstream player. I don't think anyone who doesn't most always hit the sweet spot (unforgiving), have a very high swing speed, should even be considering this head.

Same My biggest fear now is getting them through customs in a timely manner..... can't wait to put these in play

Below is a post I made in the Adams LL thread. A couple of drivers I forgot to mention were a couple of Yamaha's and Mizuno's I want to say again that it was not love at first swing. It took me as long or longer to dial this in as any driver I've had. For the size the driver is reasonably forgiving. IMO it was not made for the high handicapper but the better ball striker. Bottom line over the last four outings I'm hitting the ball off the tee deeper than I've hit the ball in years. No hype. "Nobody has "preached" that heads are maxed out and have been for years more than I have. Period. Look at any review I've done with a driver for the last five years and you will not see any claims of distance gains. Forgiveness, yes. Overall distance, no. I personally own (short list) LL R1 R11 Covert Tourstage last 3 models Ryoma premia and ST had a V-spec and sold it. E-pon all of them inc. 152 and 103 Kamui's S-yard GT I'm sure I've forgotten a couple. Truth is (for me) they are all pretty much the same when it comes to distance. You can just about throw a blanket over them out in the fairway with the sweet spot hits. The biggest difference between most of them is forgiveness, looks and feel. Yesterday afternoon, on a real Tee box on a real golf course with real balls, the ball I play, myself and two good golf buddies tested these and a couple of other drivers out. Bottom line for two of us is the T.388 is noticeably longer. 10-15 yards longer due to roll out. Yes, roll out. Pretty much landed with the rest of them but just simply rolls out past the rest of them. Out third tester was struggling to find the sweet spot with the T.388 and did not get the additional yardage. for him the Ryoma Premia worked best because of the forgiveness. The LL performed very well and was (on sweet spot strikes) as long or a couple of yards longer than most. Missing the sweet spot and it couldn't keep up with the Ryoma. If I played for feel it would be the 103, forgiveness the Premia. Looks, well very subjective but I am a bit old school and like the look of a smaller head. For the money the LL is a great value. If it was the best club for me I'd play it. Whether it is (T.388) the flavor of the month or not it's simply longer than any other driver for me that I've found. I never stop looking."

Not the expert here but, It seems that by reworking the grooves to still stay conforming that they spin darn near as well as before. I think the biggest difference is the grooves aren't able to "displace" the grass as well from the longer grass when hit out of the rough. Where I think they have made up for it is with the ball. A non conforming wedge with some of the newer premium balls actually spin too much. (for me) Certainly not going to surrender my non conformers anytime soon as I still play them especially if I know the greens are quite firm. And yes, I'm a bit surprised there aren't more of the non conformers still made. I'd bet they'd be very popular.

As mentioned I have some different shafts to try as well as a couple of different ones I've been thinking of trying. The Ho is me wants to do it but after today.................................................................... I'm leaving the stock shaft. I drove a par 4 today I haven't driven in over 6 years and two shoulder surgeries a go and that wasn't my best drive. Seriously think I'm going to buy the next head only that comes up just to try some different shafts cause I'm not touching my "stock" set up.

Haven't seen them anywhere...

Original i33 or the re-release?

I have the 10.5* with the stock shaft and can't imagine playing the 9.5*. Any lower trajectory would be to low for me. I'm getting such good results in both dispersion and distance I'm afraid to even try another shaft. I have a FEX, Royal Dec., TJ46, 519, I'lima and Fubuki waiting for a shot. Not sure any of them are going to get an opportunity to go play with this head. Played a course today I am very familiar with and granted the fairways were pretty firm but I was 10-20 yards deeper than I've ever been on a couple of them,

I could be wrong, first time for everything.... but I think those irons have been around for a while, at least the type S I am quite interested to see the new releases tho.

He;s not telling you why he doesn't carry a 3 wood. cause he hits it to damn far!!!!

The only club (for me) that could knock out a 18* Egg FW is a Royal Collection TRC hybrid. Even then for a tight lie the Egg is the better, easier club to hit. The "clanky ting" is the only draw back to the egg if you don't like the sound.

I don't make people promises...... they can be too hard to keep sometimes But I promise you this, you will not be disappointed the Master rules Let us know when you get it and how it turned out. pics required!!

Did you mean should start one?

Buyer Beware All the clubs on that site are def. coming from China 100% clone-fake-knock offs Illegal Quality? No - Warranty? No

FWIW I took mine straight to the course, no range time. After the first couple of holes I wasn't too impressed. What I found was that it took a little time to adjust to the club/dial it in. Well worth it. Looking forward to your review. .

Learn something every day... thanks

Can't wait for you to hit it and see what you think.

Without proof it's closed I'd go ahead and fight it. Sadly, PP will probably side with him but.... Be sure and include in your dispute he has no evidence, just his opinion along with everything else you've mentioned.