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jesuusss budddy.. thtas jaw dropping. u NEED a set of. yamaha sx to add to that.

Hit the range last weekend for my first sesshy of the season, surprisingly i hit them extremely well, was very happy with the irons , smoked them actually, a nice 15*c and just a hint of a tiny into draw crosswind to make it interesting , great session really. A random guy in the bay next to me had a portable little swing measurer that measured the ball speed, distance smash factor , in fact lots of measurements , he gave me a try of it. I loved it cudnt take my eyes off it totally threw me off my concentration.. ive never bothered to use one of these before and found out str8 away it totally fkks up ur rythm bec u immediatly try and crush the bloody ball to max out the numbers. anyway....... once i put the mental D ... measuring device to the back of the mind , i relasied this cud be a very good tool , esp if u have more than 1 set of clubs , which, id guess more than 1 or 2 of us have. point in fact. i had 2 ,6 irons in hand both from yamaha , the tour 2009s with crazy cbi and the 1980s sx with fujikura mci both about the same weight. i postulated they were not the same loft..............................................and the 09 wud be longer well on the trackman thingy the SX flew 166-171 yards and the 2009 went 172-177 yards. now, before i actually saw this i wud had said maybe 5 yards differernce at max but 10? thast a whole club! the 2009 7 iron for eg was a consistant 161-166 max. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, food for thought. onto the woods....... they seemed pretty consistant with what i think i hit on course , 3 wood was going 240+/- yards and the driver swing speed was 105-108 but only going about 265 ish , the smash factor as i was shown was all over the place, a good one is high 140s , i however was low 140s , at best , hopefully ill put that down to early season rust not an oh shiit , lawn bowls is in my immediate future. The guy said he cud see me slicing the ball which accounts for the low distance with driver and it felt like i wasnt quite nailing it ............... work to be done ! Now im over the " just see how long i am thing " im going to grab one as it most certianly gives me excellent data on what each club can produce bec , i may just have more than i set i need to measure. question ......... does anyone have one of these and can reccomend one , i have no idea what he had.

andy im pretty sure ur ones are daiwa mbs

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hmmmm we might need clarification on this model. are these any different to to ones on sale in japan from multiple stores for300? 5pw or $55 a shaft as a single piece ? i got a set 3 weeks ago in stiff and there are quite a.few of the ones i got left. stock modus 115 steel stiff aniversary model?

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shiit i love th is hting , need anything instead ? i got heaps of heads ive just pulled to go, putters too

popped these back up . no trades. prob more for the discerning ball striker who wants a rare set............,

sp brown is in yr future for the 3 iron.............. ns 950 reg maybe. both very high launch and easy in a 3 i sp orange in reg soft stepped is another beauty. slightyl heavier. but great flight!

hahaha ok but no..mine are miles.better than what the they have theresn stuff is mainly generic ......, mines , has taken thought!

dont get it...

so soooooo many good prgr wedges. great match for them is the LED. they wont look "wrong" as a set match .

done desu,.

ahhhh... indeed.

roddio 10.5 * d1 10.5* astro tour 9* crazy 9.5* tp o7 ion black 9*

any of these take ur fancy for the t388 ?

id rethink those 115s for the epons if ur not into high shots. mons = perfection , super peening blue like wise in epons shimada tours wud be a MUCH better shaft for those heads that the 115s

goals? driving- cut ball accuracy... its been pretty as a rule but i lost that shot over the last 6-8 weeks of the season trying to Jack Hammer time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyhting, every shot . draw is good, cut needs work. fairway woods- they have been the best they ahve ever been last ( coincidentally) 6-8 weeks of the season,i found some new thought at address that literally get me into the ball unlike ive ever hit it before, its weird bec it doesnt translate to driver, its specific to fairway woods off the deck only, doesnt work from the tee. irons- found some good striking back half of the year, but not anywhere near consistant as it shud be. similar thoughts to the woods but not a replica, not a liek for like. that has EASILY been my achilies heel for the last 2 years. my GIR is appaling. its roughly average 50% from 6500 yards, thats no where near acceptable on these courses when im hitting to inside 7 iron on most holes... no idea waht happened there but it needs attention, constant attention! wedges- im cool where im at with those they are saving my bacon more foten than not. putting- is there anyone , ever, who cant look for a bit more help here? i think i need to get a better site line, i think my alignment is awful, distace control looks pretty good mopst stroked but my alignemnt is crooked. beers at the 19th.... solid!

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Although the TR500s have been my most played club of the year by a ways , when i started to play the yam tours again , ive not got them out of the bag , i love looking down at that thicker head, a bit like the masda mbs which were my second most played irons , they too have a thicker top line prob more so than every other MB , it inspires confidence in my striking by looking at a thick top but ill reverse my thoughts on most dynamic CB , i think the TR500s are more so than the yams , they are more workable and easier to clip the ball to shape for my swing style. I played what is most prob one of , if not my last game of the winter season with the yams on sat and with those carbon shafts , it made it so silky sweet in the cold clear sunny skies ( 5*c) , the ground was frozen, the greens were so hard the ball bounced over the back TOO MANY TIMES!!! . in general the the ball was not flying , close on 20 yards less on t he drive than normal temps ,i cudnt get any flexability to my bod to get the ball further so the extra soft feel of the carbon made it so much nicer to hit and no elbow stingers! I think i cud have used a bit more help to cut the ball high and stop it more which the TR500s do masterfully. some may call these dilemas , first world problems.........,

anyrhing else??

heres a wee illustration of 3 heads with very minimal off set. from left: tr500 / IDBL / yamaha tour. THE 2 PRGRS share very similar head dimensions but the differences to the eye make a case to have both in play! they are actually not really a like at all to view or play i had a good look and yes the IDBLS have less off set by a whisker and u can see it at address. the yamahas are the most compact and chunky of the 3 and i think are the most dynamic of the 3 sets by a whicker over the tr500s. prob. bec the head is a bit smaller IMO. yea i dont think i cud go past these 3 sets for differnig conds. id play the tr500s on fast dry turf, in winter or short cropped buffalo. the IDBLS in the rain or wet lush tropical conds the yammy tours in just about everything.. funnily eough nobs they are my current fave play set bec they have your crazy cb limited in them and i will say , i dont think ive felt a nicer impact in a club. once again MR WIZRD the builder picked his mark 100% spot on to go with the yams.

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hahah yes they prob did and they are a magnificent match esp in summer months . what ive found , is heavier harsher shafts seem to benefit softer ENDO heads like the tr500, EPON, IDBL nabla tour.. ESPECIALLY NABLA TOURS better than smoother shafts. im not really sure why but i find it so. shimada tour,, monacco,,Sp blue/orange/red. modus 125s DG! seem.. to have some play advanatge over say modus 120s. as for offset i get what u mean theres not a lot of it. ive put the tr500s next to the IDBL and the IDBL have less off set but are thicker, chunkier and a fuller punchier shot, the tr500s have just a milli more but u can notice it and the thinness of the blade and sole means u dont get the smidge more , i can hardly call it forgiveness, but forgiveness of the IDBL extra chunk. they are both not what id call small compact heads , they have pretty big surface area heel to toe but a crisped tr500 is a feeling something quite addicitive indeed , quite a bit more workable as well. actually.... just thinking about it, the TR500S are quite a bit easier to zing about if i want to , i can get them to draw a lot easier than the idbls, quite a lot more. i dont know about you but i call them cavity blades. bec they have the essense and play characteristits of blades but with that incredible cavity for just a hint more confidence at address with the fuller head size. ive said it before, IF i was restricted to say 2 sets of irons ONLY, these wud be one set, and t he others.ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh good god i have no idea what they cud be. epon aftour. IDBL masda mb yamah tours.................. ......,

Nobs maybe beceause the heads have been flattened a smidge ? , have u checked that ?, i only say that bec i got a used set a few yrs ago from my pro source guy that were 2* flat , he said as most of the tr500s wud have been bought by A grade+ players who dont like to hook , that stood to reason. that set i got were quite noticeably flat to the naked eye , too flat for me, so i had them put back 1* even that small adjustment made a discernable difference to the eye at address. esp in the longer irons. ( 3/pw) oh btw........, in case u get tired of those NON JDM !!!!!!!! shafts, may i WHOLESOMELY reccommend you try the old NS SP red........................... and do those heads justice!!!!!!!!! those shafts, are so ABSOLUTELY, positively LIGHTS OUT!!!!!!!. im tempted to re do a bunch of irons with them and just play those going forwards, getting tired of muscling up each game with the blues and 130s , 125s are still my go to but i digress.., RED are lightish, 115ish g +/- with just the hint of workability with a mid balance, lower kick for an easier higher flight , and they play strong for a light shaft . why- o -why did NS stop making the SP range !?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!