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theres ia a magnificent set of these , hardly hit for sale ..........my buds eyeing them up , i havnt hit them can anyne comment on them?

10* going with the crazy black 50 x shaft in the yamaha 201 v non tour version. will be ready today....... range tonight!

i havnt hit this yet but i have access to one to put in the a v 201 yamaha , but idlike to know what to expect b4 i go ahead the guy said it was a a low launch.. but really stiff. stiffer than my qaudra, does this sound ok to go with ? guys who have hit this shaft i pls. they said it was an x flex. ok here goes., i played this in ( 8.2 x) for a few weeks. its a superb feeling shaft , very direct repsonse to your hands and firm i played it in the yamaha v201 10* head at 44.75 inch . i found is had a tendency to push right, the flight is mid launching and long low spin. not as loa launching as the quadra fre express. def not as low actually. the feel is really quite special. its got a glassy feel but with some give when u middle it and turn the ball over its a really beautiful feel , if u have a tendancy to hook then this would be a great shaft , unfortunatly i push the ball so the results for me on this were pretty bad when i didnt get it turned over. too much to bag im afraid, bec i loved the feel. i changed the shafts over from this to the quadra so i could have a face off. been dying to do this for a while. the quadra is a lot more direct it has no bias that i can notice . length wise its a toss up i have hit some monster balls with both of these shafts but i gotta go for the quadra FOR MY SWING. i like the feel of the crazy better. but the results are better suited to a slicer with the quadra. if ulike ot take the left side outta play then this is pretty hard to beat, a LOT better than the gd di series IMO.if i can fix my swing flaw and turn drivers over more often , then i will DEFINATLY put this in somwhere. it might just be i need a slightly softer flex. il try al ot to be able to bag this somewhere bec i loved its feel . however one must urge caution to the "pushers " amongst us. theres better suited shafts , but this is definatly in the fianal of my favourite feeling ones.

tks..., well looks like im sticking with the yamaha. question for u whats the quadra 55 like in the fairway?

was in the shop a minute ago loking at the new titelist and its look fantastic. bit less pear shaped than thier older offerings. anyone hit this yet? it comes with an alpha fubuki... or graphite design di s as shaft options. very tempting...............,

hold the fort for a second chaps , i just found 2 , 201 v series theres 2 models the tour and the non tour im gonna get the non nour 201 v thats got a illima 60 s in it but whatever, im more keen to see how it looks hits, ill change the shaft later . so hang on a sec and ill post a report on wed off to the range tom night.

i picked up some new epon sets a cpl of weeks ago and my bud has been dying for a hit with them since i got them, . its 36* in tokyo town all week and just horrendously oppressive! we decided to go to the range a cpl of nighs ago before we allowed ourselves to get comfortably numb consuming copious amount of asahi super dry & grapefruit chu hi's watching the gorgeous J - girls parade around Akasaka ,so instead of taking full bags we take the 7irons to chek out the -likes-dislike off all our sets. just for something a little differnt the combatants were epon 302---ns 950 s epon af-tour--kbs tour s kyoei v muscle--ns1050x fourteeen tc 1000--ns950s tour stage 901--ns950s nizing prototype.--dg s300 miura cb1006--dg s300 yururi flatback.---dg s400 TM tpforged--ns950s bearing in mind this wasnt an exercise in maker vs maker, more , a desire to see if there was anything we have that jumped off the page by only hitting the 7 iron in uinison and what conditions each iron set would suit best. heres what we thought discussed over the afformentioned chu hi frenzios that followed............., KYOEI v muscle ........, this was a very stable very direct club. the feedback is fantastic u know if u middle it or if u dont immediatly . there was however a noticeable loss of disatnce on non centered shots and a small loss of feel. workability these are outstanding. middled shots are awsome. not super soft not rock like beautiful iron. comp play springs to mind. TM tp....., A very soft palyers iron, workability better than the other non blade irons ,distance good ,feel superb. non centered shots werent overly penal, and centered felt brilliant . they have a smaller head than most cavities . excellent club. performance springs to mind here. YURURI flatback......., tiny head. the smallest offering by a way. quite daunting to look at if ur not used to them. workability just rediculous. easily the most workable . centered shots just pure. miss hits very penal . there is a huge distance loss and direction loss on bad shots . but when u get them clean whoa dragon! .trajectoy mid high.. higher than expected against the others which surprised me. old world charm is my menatl piccy of these. good iron palyers only need apply theres no respite. EPON AF TOUR.... the softest blade, by a long way. good distance and good trajectory mid low. fora blade off centerd shtos wernt overly penal, and centered .......well. perfect! .....,workability is excellent the best blade. (btw the kbs tour in them are awsome .., tks eponfreak) shoot the lights out is how id descibe these. TOUR STAGE 901....., very small head super thin sole ,the thinest by a long way. these we decided are the best for wind play. the trajectory is LOW very low, workability sensational. u tend to err towards an extra club with these bec of their size...., feel is very good not as soft as the epon, but very good for a specific round. links golf springs immediatly to mind . MIURA cb1006....... ,straight lined at address flat sole base. the squarest looking club. , feel is solid def not soft like butter. trajectory mid. distance very good. maybe the longest. moveability very good , they are easy to control with out gettitng super snap/ slice tastic. solid every day club . if i cud have one set only and it was these, they would do perfectly. no complaint or longing for another set. i didnt think they were best feeling not the worst. solid sums these up prefectly. NIZING proto..., my japanese clubmakers own design , like the miura a more solid feeling at impact. lovely to look at simple effective design , i think made for mid handicappers . moveability good , but off centered shots were quite penal. good distance. surprised he didnt make a lot more of these the look alone wud sell. cost efffective simplicity springs to mind. FOURTEEN tc 1000..., i wrote i wasnt overly mad on these not long ago. but in this co and as a comapre contrast exercise these were my biggest surprise. very light mid high flight , moveability ok. quite a soft feel ., at address the look a bit thicker on the top line and an ever so slightly larger head. these were so impressive this time i aint selling em any more. every day springs to mind. EPON 302......., although this was not the object of the exercise, (we were looking to see exctly what we cud do with the same no. iron not do a "vs" thing ) there emerged a very "clear winner " these are just sensational. the softest sweetest club., the trajectory, the distance the stability just perfect. workability fine without being too stong, off centered shots were rewared the most . distance very good. and simply beautiful to look at. the best looking design and at address. not square not round. head size not big or small the tiniest offest noticeable. the feel, omgod. nothing comes close. absolute perfection springs to mind. and i havnt played them yet, that joy comes tomorrow.

i put the kbs in them , they are absolutely perfect.

My clubmakers range here in tok. . hes got so many little brands in there i get a new trial every week ,some of the woods are just incredible. baldo, ptune..., he makes his own limited set of clubs ,theres a driver,a fairway ,3 wood & utility and in irons theres a cavity and these players iron sets and a cpl of wedges. made from s25c forged in himeji they are very easy on the eye. solid at impact, gets good distatance and mid trajectory . smallish head. top line quite thin, base is medium bodied. nothing flash about these at all, just a solid easy to play players iron .

chaps living in tokyo has certain advantages. i hate to tell you guys this..., i JUST bought a set of af -tours heads a cpl of days ago on the forum here. which i got yesterday morning absolutle beautiful, was very chuffed, THEN at 10.45am not 20 mins after they arrived. yesterday i got a call from my local shop.., 2 thats right, 2 sets came in a set of af302 and a set of af-tours , somone owned both and for some inexplicable reason didnt like them! and chopped out.. i jumped on the scooter at lunch and hooned down there to have a look . did then manly thing..., bid him low for both sets and got hit immeditaly. the a 302 didnt look like they had been hit the af tours were obv. his gamers. (now ive got 3 sets , 1 is going str8 back to oz , the others are sitting here with me. what planet am i on!) i hit the 302 last night at the range. NOW i see what u guys been talking about , the veil has been lifted. they came with a lovely set of dark blue iomic grips on them . just magnificent. i have a question tho , i was going to pull a set of kbs tours and put them in the af-tour heads i bought form here. . i think the standard shaft they come with is a the dgs300 which i have a set of as well and like. but i really want to put the KBS set in them i hit the 302 with the ns pro 950 gh s and they worked brilliantly, loved them i n these heads! any pros/ cons for KBS , anyone using the kbs set up, bec thats what im leaning towards ??

ive got a cpl of Ali'isleis , a 73s and 73x in my 15 and 18* diablos and they do work well in fws...., much better than in a driver i think. off the deck they seem to be pretty low launching with a small upward kick towards the apex then good roll out, i find they are not the best for landing on greens tho. i find them much better for hitting towards the green that landing on it. From a tee , ( a really low tee) they get a lot more rise and less roll . not overly keen on hitting these from tees. BUT..., my trusty old diamana blue 73x is my best performer. (gotta hammer it a bit off the deck thats granted, as its an X , but from a tee , its easily the best.) ive got them in my Royal collections 15* 17* fws and they work brilliantly for me. no bias just super solid instills total confidence for any shot i need. the others set ups ive got are an ozic xcon 6 in a TM burner tp 13.5* and a big bertha a 18*( that thing is superb) the xcon has a nice high launch profile, and is absolutely prefect for landing on greens .easily the best shaft for that, and the xcon seems to have a small fade bias with not a lot of roll(for me anyway) so i can go dead at a target and it stops dead. i have a kaili 70 s in a birth 15* which im liking ,but not as much as the blue. ( im still r testing that set up) ive treid a few graphite design ev6 s and x in my roy colls, and found them harder to get in air with ease. i found i was swinging hard to launch it but its gets a lot of roll these things just go, i think they are very good for very hard swingers, i see a lot of these in fws in used bins here.

ive hit these enough now to have a good feel for them. my posse of these now consists of 2009 4.6 rpm v with a gd DI6s 2007 4.6 v with GD md 6s 2009 4.6 rpm D with roddio pentacross w6ba had a great game on sat with the MD 6s into a stiff breeze ,this was a great club. id lost my slicemachine swing and was thumping these out there. with a nice little draw. i was hitting this in conjunction with the yonex nextage and i think the yamaha was the slightly better club. ( apples to apples here !) yamaha heads are very good indeed. and they are long, im converted now. the 2010 is getting looked at agn tonight........,

just bought this it felt fantastic on practise green! anyone ever seen one before??? .. hoya the lens maker aparently made a cpl it feels good, seriously !

right im lifting one tonight.

found ths

i shafted the yonex nextage 9* with a quadra 65 sx, ........., uber low launching. piercing thumps . the ball rolls long..., it doesnt get that much air time and on the grounds in jp at moment its not going that long on most holes, bec the ball stops quickly on the sponge grass. but the shots ive hit well onto a flat lie with some downhill slope the ball goes really long. i cant move it around that much its just too straight and low. im thinking its absolutely perfect for my ventures to the links back home where the grass is really tight and on windy links courss it will be supeb. thats what its custom built for. no ballooning. oh , and u must swing hard at it or it goes right ,a straight right block. its certainly for when im feeling very confident.

can i buy a set like that ? is it possible to order half a set of 302 and half a set of af tour bec thats what i wanna do.

put this little beauty in the bag yesterday for a hit out. was given to to me by my guy for a test. its DEF in the rotation now. very sleek, very stylish. very very very nice to hit . looks slightly raised at address kind of like u want to draw it, but can move both ways with ease . beautiful feel. no clue yet as to what this actually is ,or who makes it , but the maker has a tour van as i have one of his grips on my miura putter he put on for me at a demo day at ishioka a while ago. during the round it was easy to get the ball in the air, but didnt baloon, i didnt scuff one and middled all shots i hit with it . the kaili kept it very true in the air i liekd the trajectory a lot. mid ish. and distance was good. i hit 4 shots, 2 tees and 2 fairways , it was easily up with the other guys drives off the tee and perfect little draw to the green on 18 to safety where trechery abounds if u miss slightly..., it gets another round next weekend. looks easy to hit and is , with good distance. and flight. ( im gettign slightly long of 3 woods here.) ill ask about it tonight unless someone else knows about this?? but me likey !

gents, after testing a rogue af-tour 7-iron on a range yesterday before a match . i think, ( no thats incorrect ,) im DEFINATLY going to lift a set of epons. , i love the look of the 302, ive had my eye on these for a long time so i think its going to have to be a combo set. ..., like 4-5-6-7 in the 302, and 7-8-9-pw in the af-tour . ( rotate the 7 iron.) i was blown away by the quality of this club yesterday. i gamed the miura cb1006 and i love this set. but...., the differnce was extremely noticable, the miuras are a lot more solid at impact .(i guess this is a good description) than the epons, which are a much softer feeling iorn. and it would appear i love softer clubs. has anyone done this combo style ? also ive tried lots of shafts, kbs feel very stiff and heavy, the ns pro 1050 ive got in most of my clubs, with but the ones i used yesteday were dg s300 which.. seemed perfect any thoughts????????

hmmm they look very oishi. whats thediffernce from the flat back?

ahhhh, yes indeed i took this out for practise round yesterday and loved it, (like u said apart from the sound which is awful. its a very dull ting.)its a tad disconcerting at first, BUT so effective. i putt very straight up and have very little arc, dead straight bac to forward in my stroke and this suited me perfectly i hit everything dead , this gets bagged form this weekeend.

feels like its got fantastic balance, and love the look of the straight blade, but the backs a bit creepy has anyone use this?

the seida conforming are called rupas the tour conforming spin fine. its a matter of shape and looks , actually i think the tour spin a bit more. traditional shape rupas, or the flater longer shape tour. get both then u wont be dissapointed. i got the rupas shafted with ns pro 1050 x the tour with kbs tour black s the kbs is heavier and more "punchy" the ns pro gives u more feel both great dpeneds on what u favour.

haha yep. i think i suffer from the same affliction as you, im a shaft-a-holic. i gota find these shafts........,