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Its the KCM head. Do you guys want this? Many brands use this same head, this one just doesn't have a logo.

And here's another one. This is the one I would choose. White Satin w/ Matte Silver cavity paint!

I would say yes. I cant speak for others but from my experience both have that sticky feel.

The answer to that is complicated. We are all different with so many variables. What is soft to me may be hard to you and that can be due to the shaft, grip, or swing that day. Each finish can change feel for the discerning player. but so can the shaft, grip, design of the club head. I think black mirror is sticky. Black IP is durable because its applied with the chome mirror plating. it feels slightly firmer with IP. Finish is a strange thing, Its a risky business when something can contaminate the pot, break it, etc... I have sent clubs to almost every aftermarket finishing company online or our customers have. The quality out there is terrible especially outside of Japan.

Yesterday we showed you a set of Miura CB-2008’s with black mirror finish and charcoal gray cavity paint. Today we bring you Japan black IP with black gloss cavity paint! Which do you prefer? or will you wait to see what we bring tomorrow before deciding ;) . Japan black IP is a very durable and high quality finish that looks outstanding. Its the best black you can get when done right, and these are. In Japan Black IP the shape looks improved from all angles. It looks like it has less offset in black. Its really the black IP finish that is making these look so flawless. This CB-2008 has a nice wide sole with killed leading edge. This sole can work for low to high handicap players.

Yes It would have more distance if it had a stainless face yet that would also compromise feel, exactly as you say. One benefit may be they can produce a larger more forgiving head that isn't as heavy. Another possibility is they want the face forged in japan and final process like the weld and finish. Some parts come from Taiwan I believe. I do think its obvious the quality is better when the Miura club is 1 piece and made 100% in Japan like their MG and Legacy models. The 1 piece designs by Miura have the highest quality fit and finish from any club in Himeji imo. To me irons are all about accuracy and feel and the overall experience of the round as a whole, I prefer a new set of irons or wedges to a new wood any day. Most people go crazy over drivers. Feel, look, and sound is so important to me when it comes to irons. An interesting shoot out would be the Epon P3s vs these CB-2008s.

and another one!

You are looking at a very custom set of the new Miura CB-2008 irons. How is this one different than the standard model? Its all cosmetics we took the heads and stripped the finish off of them and then sent it to our Japanese factory that does our black mirror finish. Black Mirror is very similar to chrome mirror, but it has a deep dark hue to it. Refinishing a 2-piece club head is not easy especially when it has an undercut, the finish can’t adhere to all areas of the inner cavity, so our next step was to send this to a golf specific paint factory that specializes in painting OEM wood heads and iron cavities. One issue we ran into was that we found pitted steel in particular areas of the club head which we had to use a tiny grinder and polish off before sending it back to the painting factory. The photo above shows the top line, its beautiful and thin and the face has a near perfect heel to toe length. The one issue I have with these is the amount of offset. In some finishes its hard to see in others more evident. We took things a step further and decided to paint beyond the outside of the inner cavity as it had the perfect lines to do so. The photo above shows this well. This gives it a unique look which is nothing like the stock set sold. A photo of the sole shoes a nice curved leading edge but due to the two piece construction the number on the sole is slightly pushed to the left. The solution to this was a simple one, engrave the number instead of press. Unfortunately, that process costs more. The paint color in the cavity is called charcoal gray. We have more sets we will be posting in coming weeks with different head finishes and interior cavity paint colors. The CB-2008’s shape face on is nice. The 2008 is very easy to hit with a pretty good soft feel which is uncharacteristic of most two piece heads. Distance is what is expected based on a 45* PW. Miura went with a stainless body and forged face which leads me to believe feel was of the utmost important. If distance was their goal, they could have gone with a forged body and stainless face similar to other two-piece distance irons. We will only be producing 1 set 5-PW exactly like this. It will be in the TSG pro shop in just 1-3 days from now with a quantity of 1 set. We are not sure how long they will last, but in total it took us two months to complete the process you see here. These heads traveled to many different factories and had specialty work done that no one else offers.

We were actually at full price for a long time. 100% retail following his rules. There was always a lot of indecisiveness and stupidity coming from Mayuki Takai. All his dealers push him around and he constantly bends to their will. One way he thought he could appease them is trying to implement the dumbest rule I have ever heard of restricting TSG from selling new products for 1 full year. Then 1 year later we can sell the item to our customers. You cant make this stuff up. He agreed with our advice to lower the retail but then his accounts said no... he is not in charge. He could have avoided this mess with simple communication and negotiation but nope, instead he vanished and did not fulfill his end of the deal. Then we mark down, he puts that text up on his website and things are bad.

Do I have it right that at the moment its 2000 bucks for 3 wedges and 500 each additional with an in person fitting only?

So lets first address what they claim: that TSG may be selling fake itobori products... Who here really thinks TSG has sold anything fake ever? Their only claim is false. TSG was in agreement to deliver on: 1. supply photos and build website www.itorborigolfclubs.com . ( visit website for proof ) 2. teach his team of dealers about photography, equipment, technique . ( look at his dealers photos and see similarities ) 3. create price sheets, order forms and file sharing network for his dealers . ( I can post all of these up! ) 4. design aesthetics and ideas for future products . ( genrei stamping, smooth sole option, genrei blade, itobori stamp ) We delivered 100% He then very cowardly disappeared and caved to his dealers request to get rid of TSG. We gave him every chance to mediate the situation but he was silent. He then saw marked down prices on TSG and put that garbage up on his website. So lets take a look at what Itobori is: - open model head cost 2000 yen, finish cost 1500 yen, his grinding as seen on youtube he touts takes 20min.. Thats $40 + labor to create a wedge that retails for $350. 850% mark up ok with you guys? - They stamped Made in Japan on a driving iron made in China. First excuse was because import department required it, second excuse was it was finished and paint filled in Japan... truth is they were trying to mislead the consumer. below more examples of this: - Hammer Forged - They market the genrei is hammer forged, implying its forged by hammer. load of bull! - They claim the grind on the back of the driver is made to control ball flight - anyone believe this? - That Mayuki Takai makes all the wedges by his own hand. Ive seen first hand this is not true. - Saying their shaft ( actually a sanki ) is made of 110T, its made of 90T - They have argued they tell their customers the woods, putter, and driving iron are made in China. There is just a steady flow of bull shit from these guys. But on the positive side he is a skilled grinder and I do acknowledge his style. What you will see is his distributors supporting him strong because no other brand is offering them $250 bucks profit on a single wedge. Guys the bottom line is if your going to spend $350 a head at least get something original design or demand the dealer give you 50% off. Never buy an Itobori at full price as for what it is $175 per head would be about right. I do have some Itobori stock I can clear out if anyone is interested at 50% off.

I think full CNC is too expensive, today brands CNC just parts of the head to keep costs in check. It started with the back face, then face milling, and now sole grinds are being milled. The extreme end of this would be the fully milled SEVEN CB and MCB how the hosel, neck and entire shape is milled. Benock is the worlds best putter maker. His capabilities are far beyond anyone else. He can create or edit cad for each customer and makes every putter bespoke. His machines, software, and technology is beyond as well.

These wedges are beautiful. JP now has the abilities of Titleist's resources now. what a dream! He is going the CNC and multi piece route. Originally James Patrick was hired to work with Titleist Japan. It has morphed into a separate brand. He is now in Cali and this new JP brand is a USA release first. What a great story! I can already picture what his irons could look like.

There is no hand polishing done on this head! Smooth CNC.

Its closer to the 302 in size yet with less offset, forgiveness is similar, feel is totally different, shape is better than the 302, its made better and to a tighter tolerance. I think you will notice its softer all over the face where as the 302 gets firmer the further out you miss. With the SEVENs good shots are rewarded with an impact where the ball feels like it compresses spongy and launches hot off the face.

Black IP done in Japan is sooo quality but its also very expensive. Its actually a plated finish first then the black IP process after so its very durable and pretty scratch resistant.

We are sending the CB and MCB around for people to experience. We want members to compare them to the best the market has to offer. The face shape is totally different from the CB. The MCB looks noticeably easier to hit while still compact.

It seems like Vokey Wedges are everywhere! For the last 15 years, Vokey wedges have been a dominant force on tour. They are probably the most widely used wedges in the world at this point. Introducing the 2017 Vokey Design Forged Wedge! Are these Forged Wedges similar to the global model SM6s? Think again! This is the 3rd generation Japan model Vokey Design Forged Wedge. Previous generation models were very popular among JDM fans. So let’s take a closer look at this all new Vokey Forged Wedge to see what’s different over the previous gen forged models as well as the global SM6 wedges, shall we? First off, the SM6 are cast 8620 Carbon Steel and the Vokey Design Forged Wedge, as the name suggests, are Forged Carbon Steel. As many of you know, forged carbon steel provides that exceptional dense buttery feel at impact which many golf enthusiasts around the world crave shot after shot. That part is nothing new to us. From the outside, the shape is very traditional and frankly similar looking to past Vokey wedges other than the slightly added offset with the 2017 Vokey Design Forged Wedge. This subtle offset should help inspire confidence for those seeking added forgiveness in a wedge. The biggest change that sets this new Vokey Forged apart from other forged wedges in the market today is the internal weighting structure. Similar to the 716 CB and 716 AP2 irons, these Forged Wedges have Titanium and Tungsten weight elements co-forged which moves the CG to an optimum location to improve shot consistency for each loft setting. The approach used by the SM6 is different. They strategically altered the thickness of the back face to move the CG up and down. With the Forged Wedges, the weight was moved internally which allowed them to keep a clean traditional look on the back face. Other notable features include TX4 grooves with added parallel milling for enhanced spin performance as well as a pre-worn leading edge for a smoother turf interaction. The new Vokey Forged Wedge really looks good at address. A familiar teardrop shape with the slightest offset, which really isn’t much if you actually look at it. Traditional looks will appeal to the most discerning players.　Most would find it an easy switch from their current gamers. Available in Satin Chrome (48 to 60 in 2 deg increments) and Black PVD finishes (50 52, 56, 58 only) , they are also available as Right Hand only. In the more popular lofts, you can choose from F, M and K grinds for your specific needs. If you are a Titleist fan, ( and who isn’t? ) and you want to stay with Vokey wedges but want something JDM and high-tech than your next door neighbor’s Vokey wedges, the 2017 Vokey Design Forged Wedge is a sensible choice. After all it is arguably the most trusted brand name in short game. You can purchase the new forged vokey in 2 finishes and a variety of different lofts and CG options here

I like JOP as well and have used them for many rounds. The only negative I have is the seam that runs down both sides.

Yes we can order custom Yoro T7s, many finish, grind and stamping options to choose from. email me if thats what you need.

I have pics and will post when we announce. We can also request custom face milling. Ive spent a day and a half learning their stuff some are face inserts are softer some roll straighter some provide more feel. After testing these I realize I cant just have one. A lot more info to come.

They were supposed to arrive late March. We just got them this weekend. Back orders filled, a few sets left in full body milled or hand polished body. It is a beautiful thing this iron; one piece milled entirely from a block of Japanese steel. It's every angle is perfectly shaped by computer controlled milling. Our CG locations and CAD produced using an HD-3D NX7 software. The resin prototypes shaved by hand to determine its final form. Getting excited? The new MCB Mid-sized players cavity back by SEVEN Golf. Once you hold one of the new generation SEVEN Irons CB or MCB in hand, you will see the difference in quality, shape, and detail. These are on a different level when compared to SEVENs previous products, and the brand is committed to reproducing the entire line up so the performance, feel, and design is consistent with these new irons. The face shape plays a significant role in how well these perform. It's not chunky in any one area and balanced well throughout. We selected particular irons from other makers to compete with and uncover what attributes allow smaller sized heads pack ample forgiveness. The concept I came up with is I call stacked metal, and it means no portion of the head should be too thin or thick, all dimensions must be flowing with consistent thickness throughout. This allows it to be thick and dense yet still compact. The clubs in these photos are prototypes let me explain; The new SEVEN CB and MCB come in full milled body or hand polished body options. Both are made the same way its just an extra step is taken in the hand polished version to remove the intricate milling found over the club heads entire surface. It's personal preference, and we do not charge any more for the polished version. We sell more full body milled than polished, yet I play polished. What else is different is there no bead blast within the cavity we selected a beautiful and quality bead blast to go inside the cavity to give it a more refined look. I will post pics later, the new heads have just arrived at TSG, and we are shipping all back orders of the MCB immediately. Several other prototypes were made to test different shapes even an undercut cavity. We found no improvement in forgiveness with an undercut versus without. It features a very thick cavity yet on the sole does not look wide. No other mid-sized players CB has this little offset. This is the same face progression you would find in a compact players blade and while yes offset is our friend one of the most overwhelming requests in a mid-sized CB is the absolute the least amount of offset possible for good performance. FP 4.5-5.5 through the set! We set out to make a shape, feel, and forgiveness that would rival or better irons like the previous ONOFF KURO, Titleist VG3 Forged, Callaway Stenson's, and an elite group of others which we defined as the benchmark. We have surpassed our expectations in not only each of the categories we initially set out to conquer but one area especially surprised and it was a noticeable quality difference. Above the full body milled version shows off whats truly unique about the new SEVEN CB and MCB irons Full CNC, and this is not just an effect or milling over a shaped head this is the entire hosel, neck, and all transitions transformed into the AutoCAD design. Precision done in Japan. A deep cavity is hidden beneath a mid-size sole. The MCB's sole design is flatter and wider with a killed leading edge it can support the better player who wants forgiveness or, the more casual golfer who still appreciates a nice looking club at address. The leading edge is pronounced it supports players with a slightly steeper attack angle yet will please semi shallow sweepers with ease. How do these feel? Soft for sure, some of our advanced testers use the word addictive. The entire face has CNC milling on milled grooves which change the relationship with vibration time and feel much like a putter with deeper milling feels softer at impact. But that is not the only way these feel different because these are not pressed or forged to shape the entire face feels like butter at impact. Not gushy soft but a cold firm dense stick of butter. In the chart below you can see the MCB has the least amount of offset in its segment. The Lofts are traditional by today's standards with a 47* PW. You may also notice that we have a set dedicated AW, We see most players have distances gap issues between their PW and first blade wedge, so we created a 50* to supplement and highly recommend this as it will save you some strokes. The AW has a more narrow sole which allows the player to open it up the same way consistently. This is another area where the CB and MCB are different. The CB as it moves into the wedges gets a thicker sole while the MCB gets more narrow we found this a unique way to give the MCB some extra points with the better player. I play the MCB, and my favorite club is the AW. I used to hit my PW about 125 yds yet my AW only 110 yards, muscling up or de-lofting was rarely a smart decision. The 15-yard gap of missing distance seemed to be a popular one for me on course. I had this issue, and so did many of our customers. We avoided creating short irons that were shovels at all costs. Even our cavity design 50* wedge looks like a blade wedge and matches the feel, performance, and distances of the full iron set. By using CNC to produce the shape, the neck transitions are perfect the top line thickness is consistent from heel to toe, and with a CNC milled face, you can be sure it is totally flat. Even our finish is better, we took many leading brands even Japanese irons and tested our finish against their using nails, razor blades, hammers, and hitting sand balls the durability is the best of any plating we have seen. If you're feeling sadistic please, by all means, put it to the test. The Japan and Korean markets will be receiving limited edition double gold IP heads with mist bead blast, and black paint fill so stay tuned for those! The New SEVEN MCB is now shipping and ( available here ) - Remember that the final version has subtle improvements over the prototypes ones used in these photos. The inner area of the cavity has a beautiful bead blast which makes them look more expensive.

Just a few of the sole options. I like the bottom right myself. We can even do custom sole designs. The quality is second to none.

They start at 1k.

Yes now you can. please email me. I know your going to like the JSS option. It actually stands for JUN's stainless steel after the owner of benock Jun Okuda-san, but anyway this is technically SUS316L which is an upgrade over standard JIS 303 which is already equal to Scotty's GSS btw. You can take one of any Benock design and select options or even actual design changes. This way will be the most popular choice at 1k -5k, or you can go full fresh design of your dreams starting at 5k up to 10k. I can sell now but the full announcement is a couple of months out. We are putting together options lists and ordering guide/process because the freedom of design with these are immense. Below a mallet i must have.