bogeydog

Already shipped and in route.

Either is a great choice.

Yes I know it likely is similar to Bangvoo butt the sr is likely a better flex for me.

Beer

Why not the CB46 6.2? It may be the model you have now is too soft and can't catch up with hard swings.

I ordered one today.

In my experience, the old TJ46 is easy to hit fades with.

In this shaft I would go 6.7 if you have a mid 90s ss with any lag of good transition.

Likely yes. I went to the range today and think if I can ratchet down the flex a little, it will be killer for me. I also may put it in the new Kamui.

Anyone out there playing or tried the SR flex that was released April 1? I am interested in how it compared to original FE and if you have any comments on how it built as compared to the original SR or S flex.

Glad to help everyone.

I don't have any experience with that Noir shaft. The CB46 I think is rather easy to load without coming out of your shoes. GBS here may have some feedback for you, but my gut says that the CB46 isn't being played here by only aggressive hitters and the results have been good. I haven't heard anything about the TJ46 Noir.

I have a 260 premium Muziik in the BST section for sale! $499

Huh?

I know how difficult it is to digest all of the material about golf shafts and decide what is right for our swing, etc. I have been there and quite frankly am still there. The emergence of new equipment and the fun of ho'ing is fun. Recently there has been a lot of talk about these shafts. The Quadra was a big hit and has many faithful followers. The Crazy CB was a sleeper and one that many seem to like. The Muziik is a killer. but due to price maybe a too scary for many to buy and test. Below are my thoughts based on my experience cycling these shafts through a Ryoma Premia, 10 degree, square face, 200g head. I have included any deviation from this build if I know them. In regards to me, I am 5'3" strong build, high 90s to low 100s SS, medium tempo (but I like to hit it hard), high ball hitter, misses are caused by getting to hand-sy, good driver of the ball, typically prefer a staight to draw ball. CB 46 6.7 I bought this shaft along with the Ryoma head back in February. Having tried the TJ46 in a Kamui before and hearing how many struggled to find a Crazy that worked for them, I was not sure which to buy. I thought back to what worked for me in the past. I decided I do better with shafts that have a torque rating in the lower 4s. I also never get along with shafts that are too stiff. That always results in fades and pushes. The specs on the CB46 looked like they would work and the shaft was advertised as lower spin. This build was somewhat abnormal for me as it was built at 45.75" for swing weight purposes. Feel = Really nice. Softer feel, big kick, without being a wet noodle. Trajectory - Medium to high. Path - Mostly soft draws, seems to be anti-right. Performance - Really good. Easy to hit, satisfying feel, doesn't need to be muscled or overcooked to work. Pure hits are money. Roll-out is above average. Comments: IMO, best for controlled player who can control the left side. The profile plays soft. The description from Crazy says it is for aggressive swingers which I do believe a reasonable level. Likely fits a wide range of golfers types. Likely tied with the Muziik for distance, but not as accurate if you are aggressive. This club longer than the others and the length likely softened the finished flex somewhat. Muziik Bangvoo Premium 260cpm Tourspecgolfer really fell in love with this Ryoma combo. I agree that it is stellar. I ordered the 260cpm model (in stiff flex a 250 and 260 is offered). Club was build at D2, 45". What a pretty shaft, class all the way. Feel - Great sold feel. It feels powerful and solid. Kicks pretty hard, but not as much as the Crazy. Trajectory - Medium. Path - Straight, straight, straight. Performance - Really good also. Laser straight. Likes to be hit hard. Ball jumps off club and you know it. Roll-out is best of the three. Comments: I was very excited to get this shaft. The 260 is too stiff for me by a few clicks. That is why I am selling it. The torque rating is 3.8 which is in my danger zone. When I cranked it, the flight was the best of all the shafts. Medium to med high launch, super blast rocket. Likely will be liked by those with good lag and like to crank it up without fear of overcoming the shaft. I really like this shaft. I am considering buying the 250 cpm model as that will fit me better. If you are a 100 to 110 SS person, this could be a monster with control. Quadra Fire Express 65SR I have had this since the beginning of the year. I held off the purchase as long as I could. This shaft was not installed in the Ryoma, but in my 2009 Yamaha Inpres 4.6V Tour head. Feel - Wow. In this combo, it feel f-king the best. Each time I hit it, it feels as though it went 400 yards. Just so satisfying. In this combo, the best feel of the three. Trajectory - Med to high Path - Straight to draw Performance - Rock solid. Hangs right here with the others. Maybe a tad shorter, but so automatic. Seems to allow me to hold back some as well as smash it. It will take all that I have. I can see why so many love the shaft. It makes the FE Proto very attractive also. Of the three, this maybe the most user friendly. I can see it fitting the widest range of golfers. Final Thoughts Crazy CB 46 - Could be the longest. If it was a little more controlled, could be the performance winner. Muziik - I am intrigued what could be if I step down to the 250cpm model. If the accuracy stayed the same, and they drop in flex fit me better, distance could overtake the Crazy. Quadra FE - Probably the best for me when my swing is off. It I could get a little for distance out of it, definitely a contender. Superb though.

Stinger flex starts at 273cpm. Not for the average golfers for sure!

I have had these for a few weeks. I decided to try a more game improvement iron for when my swing isn't up to par. I usually play the 2011 Yamaha Tour Irons. The comments here at TSG we pretty convincing to give these a try. They are shafted with the stock NS950 shafts. Looks - I like the looks. Very clean for a cavity back. The OnOff symbol is pretty cool, but strategically placed in the CB. The tungsten inserts are expertly installed and add a cool look to the sole. At address, the top line is very reasonable and the offset not even cause for alarm. The hell to toe length is longer than the Yamaha irons, but I would expect that to be so. Overall I like the look of the iron and have had no issue switching back and forth between the two sets. The only issue I could see a change is with the bright chrome finish. I like the PW design. SCORE - 4.25/5 Feel - They really shine here. As quality feeling as any other. Feel is subjective however I would classify these as soft feeling with a dash of crispness. Good hits always feel great. Less than perfect hits don't degrade the feel by much. Enough to give good feedback, but not harsh. SCORE - 4.50.5 Trajectory - Not as high as I expected. I was thinking they would take off super high. Not so. Actually a nice medium + launch.SCORE - 4.50/5. Control - If ease is your thing, then yes they are straight, but workable. I am not an extreme worker of the ball, but I could get as much as I wanted from these.SCORE - 4.5/5 Shafts - The NS950 is staple shaft seen all over. For a reason. It is a nice shaft. Lighter in weight, great feel, very reasonable accuracy and a smoothness only Nippon seems to have. Perfectly playable for me. Overall Score - 4.5ish I really have only nice things to say about these irons. These are the first set of non Yamaha Tour irons I have owned since 2007. The design is a great and nice surprise. A forged CB that appeals to the mid HC and better player. I am sure that a scratch player would really enjoy these as do players like the rest of us. It is a truly versatile design and quality iron worthy of strong consideration.

2009

Welcome. We have been keeping a seat open for you for a long time?

IMO the 2008 and 2011 are the best years. Let us know how they work for you. I think you will be happy.

+1, 2, and 3

Chris, Can you add some comments about. The Muziik?

Yes let's get this going.

Yes I had the Quadra in the 65g SR flex. I hit it straight to fade. The Crazy CB 46 feels softer and smoother. I can hit draws and fares with it which I could not do with the Quadra. I wanted to be able to draw the Quadra but I couldn't. My buddy can draw the Quadra. The 6.7 feels plenty soft to me however Chris seemed to think it is stout in the AF-152. I think the 6.2 would be too soft if you like the Quadra FE55 in SR.

It heated up here to the higher 80s. I hit the Ryoma again. Boy did it feel smooth and soft. Really nice. One more note on the shaft. It is a straight to draw for me. I don't find that it slices at all. It may be that the head closes very fast as compared to the Epon AF-152 that was reviewed.