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there are no copper aftours.

well.............. as expected , these are NOT for the airy fairy striker. they are TINY at address. micro thin and quite daunting at first. had themout on grassrange yesterday for a huge workout with the prgr idbls as a palcebo firstly the offest i was fearing is NON existant, no issue what so ever. esp vs the idbls which have none, so that point is now moot. and the 8-9-pw are seriosus weapons of flag destruction spent the longest time hitting these into flags with all kinds of atakc patters, LOVED THEM ! absolutely LOVE hitting these to the greens. the modus 125 are a super match as well. higher than the 130s and 120s. a more balanced feel than the 130s, not as head heavy in SW. distance was NOT great. but they are a real accuracy tool. flight was MUCH better than i anticipated ,they didnt move laterally anywhere near as much as i was expecting, which was great. kinda balanced out the tiny gulp look of them with some NS forgiveness left/right. feel...hmmmmmm not everyones cup of tea, they are DEFINATLY clickier. denser more solid feel. BUT not in a bad way. no siree. centred shots are primo.. off centre and u know about it. which isnt a bad thing. but u do loose distance. i stand by my thoughts id not play these on overly long courses. but on tricky little pete dye things , these cud be terrific, esp taking aim at flags. i loved doing this with these. more so, by a long way than with my fav prgr idbls. id go so far as to say id take them to hawaii no probs at all as the second set. play them ever y3rd day. and realy look to see what the do in breeeeezy conditions, im pretty sure they d go ok. but distnce loss cud be a factor. theres gotta be some though about matching a set of 4-5-6-7 idbl with 8-9-pw in these, or somehting like that. bec the longer irons didnt really get my blood boiloing near what the prgr did. not even close. bit too thin feeling to be nice in the long irons,. i summary...... id prob not have these as my only set of sticks, bec on a bad day i think ud score a a basketaball number. but if ur hitting it well ,they are excellent. no complaints at all. also stand by the comment they are mustard looking in yr bag. they look awsome.! yea good , very veyr good blades for guys loking for that something differnt. but i feel they wud be served best as a hybrid set with thicker shorter long irons to the 8 then as they are to pw. yea, ill game them a bit for sure!

ok, i played this, shafted with FEX 65x at 45 inch frstly distance with it is pretty darn good up there no doubt. its a lower launcher than i thought. 9*, (real loft is 9.5*) its anti left as ud expect with the quadra. weighs 316 gram so got into it pretty well handles a bit of giddy up no probs at all. feel ,hmmmmmmmmmmmm very much like the jbeams.very muted, and thats with a fex! wasnt that much a fan of it sound feel , ( im not with the jbeam either but thats my no1 ddriver) make no mistake, where the ball went its no ho-dad! liked the head shape , kinda elongated oval, with distinctive groove pattern evident at address. frames the pill nicely and getting it centred is pretty easy. all round didnt mind this 1 bit. played very well. it doenst seem to have that electirc wow factor i love. but for an easy to hit (and , i found it pretty forgiving .. ) head this is not bad at all . no idea where its gonna fit into my arsenal, but i might keep it around for a bit for tour golf.

Hmmmmmmmm, not heard a bad word ever about the p2 . Offset pw tho??

honma getting endo to do their stuff??? what about sakata?

intersting this.... my callway erc 3 from 7-8 yrsd back which is about as no frills u can go in a driver . and its is without doubt as long as anyhing out now. it was also an 800 buck head made at endo of course..., the thing is , its not as forging as todays brutes/ i , miss hit it , i loose lots of distance. i get it sweet .. man its AS good as everything. As for the yamaha drivers, i think the last 2 years effors have been totally lame-o go back to the 2013 and previous, all the way back to 2008, that driver is magnificent. search ..... the fun is in the exploration sir..!

the stiner etched , lighter , kinda bluey greeny, grey ones are the original stingers in 2004. the black with white flowers are the 2009 ones. they just say prototype ,but in tiny wriing theres stigner written on it somewhere near the serial number

excellent nob-san. i was hoping they wud have these in 110 ish and ill put them in irons. i have ot try the mci i think. so these niceer than the thumps ,thats no surprise, thumps dont feel good , but boy do they deliver! going to have to try this in my honma tw driving iron!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh once again deaf ears.

stil no interest on these beauties ?????

oh yea. the long drive guys use them bizare shape , i was lokign at one last night, white , green thing, looks daunting

Id been eying this head for a while, but never had the inkling to try it until... i saw it in the drakon net at the tokyo golf show along side the krank and jbeam. that piqued my interest to say the least. so, quadra fire express 65x shafted one will go head to ehad with the justick 435 diamana X this weekend . just one session with it so far. its prety low and piercing i thought. 9* about 316 gram. any one else know anything about it ?? this one.

join that thinking. .. i hit some absolute monters with it consistantly longer than with the v-spec but ......................all over the place.!

its a litte clickier. bec the original milling is ultra thin. but it has a distinctive pop to it, the thicker putters have a real soft "general " all round feel to them, the mz is like a blade, u know when u got it and when u missed it. its by far my fave golden oldie i think ive got 5 of them . saving a plc for the kids when they grow up got them with different milling, but i think i like the orignal micro the best

ok fess up................ whos is the HM mz-07 errr unless thats mine????

i like the long neck tungsten weigths with the copper insert. that has no bell whistles and just screams qaulity. know what im gettign done next now..!!!!

think i know a few of these ones....... the epon looks real good , i know where thats heading!

im VERY intereted in how that jbeam zy goes!!!!!

yup had so many question on specs and what not ,though it best to pop this up bec this is what the actualy are so the next time i get a stinger labled as sorrta x stiff and its in fact XXXXXXXXXXX well i wil go bezerk bec there can be NO more dispute about it .

gents... for the love of all things being fair and to SAVE emabarrasment in sending on shafts that are labled.errm i dont know hte specs on this...... bec they were bought from a NON reliable source..................................., here are THE specs on the 2 stingers in 70 weight stiff and X so WHEN these get moved along, THIS WILL TAKE THE GUESS WORK out of IF they were tipped, butted ,blahbalhalh... now there can be NO MORE GUESS WORK involed bec everyone....................... will measure thier shats PROPERLY chaps get them checked before u sell. 2004 vs 2009 stinger 70stiff: 74.5 gram 264 cpm 3.2deg. vs 68gram x 275 cpm X 3.2 70X flex : 76.5 gram 278 cpm 2.8deg. vs 71 gram x 288 cpm x 2,8deg. QED

if new clubs didnt matter that much .... why does the golf mkt sell a trillion billion gazzillion dollars of clubs each year, hmmmmmm ? clubs matter to me for a cpl of reaons. firstly i am totally addicted to feeling and hearing a shot id envisioned and it coming off perfectly . Sure ican do it with an old POS from a 10 dollar bin, but thats not gonna heighten my senses like a forged 6 iron from ENDO with the latest offering from NS shafts now is it ????????????? secondly i LOVE tinkering with clubs to see if i can change the flight patters slighty, get it heigher .lower move left or fight a bit for certian courses. its a hobby and i love it! I could spend tharg on lessons to lower my score, or............... like Angel Cabrerra i can go it alone and learn from trial and error. which i MUCH prefer to do, bec im NOT gonna be popping up on the PGA tour any thime this lifetime trying to earn a living from golf , golf is a game and a past time, not a job. whilst ONE of the aims is to go low esp IN A COMP. the REAL aim is to enjoy a walk around a beautifully sculptured park whilst occasionally concentrating on hitting a litte white ball enroute! there was a great saying by someone.... dont forget to stop and smell the roses.. and i think if we just remeber our first offical "wow" strike when we hit that first JDM club ,what ever it was.... that feeling is ...i preesume why were all here, and THATS why we keep tinkering with perfectl good clubs.!!!!

those mizzies are the nicest design ive seeen for miz i was considerign putting upa titleist , but the shape of the neck just kills me. almost put a set ot tw nike up but it said nike. so i was looking for shoes

102-106 u shud have no issue with the diamana X in 60 0r 70 s shud be fine. unlesss theres something weird like what onoff used to do with thier hosel clamps on thier drivers, i cant see why a new shaft in the head wont improve it.

sigh.., cant wait for the snow to melt and other guys buy some clubs, try some out, swap some over post some thoughts. gets a bit ho- hom when theres no one else playing.

diamana X is prob a great shaft choice. i cant go past it. although u might want to try a graphite design z9003 7x. that might get u very intrested. id love to see you wit hthe jbema zy-11 8* i think of us all u wud get the most assistance frm this design. the diamanaXX or the GD z9003 7xx hmmmmmm yea.,