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i dont think u go lighter in the SW. unless u dont play a flop wedge ...... but if u hit the SW 100 yards + u wont get conssitane distance u shud prob go heaver and stiffer. why not play the monacco there aint nothing better in wedges tat those if u like a low boring flight at pins these are the absolute kings

nobu san , alisili toursatge xwedge, waccine ,stingers, kitada. love to play a round with you one day. wed have to make sure we took the correct bags home!

tourstage sold

Chris, what is the diffence between these r1 , and the set ive got without the r1 stamp do you know ? ,

def not, the 9.5 suits nicely, it will just need to be broken in. when i put the tee higher it made a bif differnce. cant say anyhting til i get it on my home track this wekeend in th dry. but it was pretty good.

Youll be the first to hit it

No u still, still cant get epon ,made copper af tours ever, still And esp nit for1/2 price. These must have been idle for years! Robbie small sugestion. Modus 120 is a good matchwith these. Ultra smooth but high,the 130s wud be better i think or the125 s ! 125 a bit tighter in x soft stepped maybe. Ns shafts are a good match,aparemtly...,

Gamed today 44.75 inch x 316gram x 201.5gram head x D2.75 swing weight Diamana x 60s shaft tipped 0.25 inch cpm267 Boy is this a small head.,Dead flat dead square , lovely looking mat grey convex face Tiny face really nice looking head. Feel,is first class, not quite as lively as the syard nor kasco but not too far off. The more i hit it the better it got Its very low, vsthe egg7.5i cudnt really see too much of a difference. Feel was totaly diferent themdifference in head weights made abig difference. Egg was 44.5 inch More lively electric feel def the prgr. Delivers a prettyy good straight,flight for the most part distance was hard to judge bec it was a s**ttttty day But icertainly wasny longing for another driver. Both were struggling today conds were pretty awful so i guess it was a good day to test them. Scored wel today so i hit a lot of fairways Misses were almost always right baby draw very achievable with this club.tee height needs to be a bit higher than average to get the ball up. This wants to go low. Rating .., Yea it rates wasnt really expecting big things to be honest figuered it was al mouth no trouser. Jsut another markeing brand. But i wa smore than pleasantly surprised,by its performance The 60s shaft was no where near underwhelming either This is a really good build. Have no hesitation in recomemdiing it , to the right person it will be a good driver. Not sure where ill play it but suffice o say its gotta go headmto,head vs the kasco to prove its worth As,of,today thoughts ,yea its more than decent Way more in fact. Be good to see it go when i can get a ball to release a bit on the fairway today ws. 100 % carry.

yea i know , i didnt get around to hitting these previously, prob bec the muscle looks"weird" but well, in hand, l i asusre yo, its NOT....!

wait tillyou hit them..............................,

Fellas loking to trade for a set of these heads. asking on here first before i go local. dont care what config 3 / 5 t0 pw is fine. cheers

D yea thast what i was also refereiing to as well i dont want anyone o ace them bec of percieved flaws, (bec there isnt any ) , it was just a cost point that made my final decision. who knows , i might hit the brown water one night , jump online and end up with a set anyway ! monacco are differnt. if u can handle the s300 or s400 or sp blux then id def go the monacco X NO probs at all you womnt need to do any thing to them. id think, although Spblue x sfot stpeed will prob get you the same reuslt as mon X the mons arent quite as ferocious as SP blue. they are abit mellower, but in x , ull get what u ask for no doubt. the soft stepped X i nthe masdas are delicious!

nobs ill ahve the tour. the second one. ive got one simlar done by golds and it came out off the hook !

remove tour world paint , remove forged paint, remove shaft, repalce with NS 2g18s. sell spare sets. place in roddio caddy bag have trouble playing another set. for a while nice thought. birdie!

MOB if u want a set of lighter , tighter , higher steel shafts, i seriosuly recomend the NS ST protos. these are feather light , but TIGHT, they will not ruin ur arm i play these in the cold exclusively now. thats a shaft well worht looking into , they run about 110 grams launch HIGH land soft. diff to the other NS out at the moment.

ahhhhhh...right .. it was NOT the intetnion to quash anyones intent at all for graphite. far from it.. i just observed what each shaft played like in similar heads agaisnt another shaft ... the whole reason i went for this test was bec my elbow also blew up late last year and it was agony till about 4 weeks ago. i cud ahdly lift it after a game , and i was intending to play grpahite only this whole year, but its improved outta site so i dont need to (HOPEFULLY) the compariosn was inted to ilustrate thpeformance of graphte vs steel that I PLAY and enjoy. it might be a tad unfait looking back o nthsi mow, to comare a graphite stif 110 gram shaft vs a 128gram X but i think i put that to bed by using the aerotech 110 vs the MCI 110, diff stinness granted, and i played both of htese hafts on course a cl of weeks back hit plenty of balls with both the aerotech for me was hte btter suited shaft, no doubt. the MCI for what it is worth, on 18, i think i mentioned as well, was so easy to get it on green, but it was def looser. the ablity to hard stpe these i beleive wud improve the performance to what i like but the restriciting factor for me is the price... if they were 3/4 of this id get them. but buying, preppeing, installign them runs at a huge peremium over steel like almosttwice the price. i dodnt see enough proof that these wud imporve my performance by a factor of 2:1,esp as the aerotechs were 1/2 the price nad a LOT better than 1/2 as good! if the MCI were the same , or maybe a bit more than my top shelf shafts , id tget them in a heartbeat. but NOT AT CURENT PRICING LEVELS.. they ddint show me a SIGNIFICANT impovement over any thing i already have. i like them but think they are too expensive . if i cud get a set used in top nick , for a good price, sure...,id have them in a jiffy. is that a better statement of intent ?

dont think id need to do that to the stiffs. they are ,for me, spot on . it wud def tighten them up a tad. but i like their specs just as they are. if u like tighter, sure thing!

the monacco X, as in X flex. theres only a few grams differnce between the stiffs , but in heads they play much heavier and taughter. especially when u get to the 7 plus. its def a case of each to thier own. and depending on what each individual wants to see in ball flight and movement ... and feel.., , each shaft differs signicantly. as much as the SP blue play uber striaght, i think myh ead space has moved onto other shafts now, but for a specific type of play, like if i was playing links every day, these are world beaters. similarly playing on rock hard greens in autumn when theres no wind and the ground is gettign harder. then the NS ST shafts are the equivalent. but on he other send, super high, ligh, very thin but very tight, land soft like a feather. these are great in the cold. easily the best shafts for winter . but in mid summer nothing beats my 2g18s. monacco stiffs right up there strasa. and the new 125s might be a very close chaser, not enough time with them yet. of the DG.. the s200 are playable. the rest mehhhh. once uve gone to NS its virtually impossible to go back to DG. i hate KBS, and i dont like those flighted project X things, they baloon. graphite is really gettign there. but not yet for me. aerotechs are the ones id choose if i went that route 100% ahhh shame. bec i really wanted to play these.

was trying my hardest to like them a lot and im pretty sure if i hard stepped them they wud work well but i cant really see the point, whrn i ve got 20 sets of irons dropping close on a thou on shafs alone which im sure wont get near the airtime they deserve with my stash. plus , they didnt jump off the page at me. nope for now im ver yhappy with my litte stash. soft stepping the monacco X is another serious option i will loook at for another set of heads. they just play damn well.

nobs , that s exacly what i thought the second i saw it . those adams were great tho, one of the only utes that ddnt automatically want to snap hook. these get the nod over them tho bec they look awsome. imagine they play just like the adams.

good snare. zen next. and ur off to the races!

just posted a new one. funnily enough ur questions ring a bell

deciding on whether to build a set of mci, i still wasnt convinced these are worth the coin. the MCI are double anything else i have so i was curious to see if they wud be awaste, the heads i had earmarked for them are my faves ,endo forged prgr idbls ,so they aint no mickey mouse head. im not going to waste a set of shafts on these heads.. range time sunday morning with these.... prgr idbl.....................modus 130s prgr idbl...... ..............MCI 110s masda blade........... monacco X soft stepped tm r9 tp ............. ......modus 120s hard stepped callaway tour authentic......NS sp blues prgr tr500......monacco s tourstage 701....aerotech 110x the whole purpose was to test the MCI vs these tried, tested loved shafts lofts are pretty similar . nothing was 3* stronger. ok how to break down the particlaurs without takign 1 billion words and half my day , FLIGHT ........, monacco X .....sp blue... modus 120 . all pretty low. , the masda head is ULTRA low so that monnaco combo was like an arrow from the ground. i wudnt like to hit this over 170 yards of all carry water.. slightest under hit and......, plop! modus 130...monacco S....aerotech , areotech the lowest of these, virging on low but ill call it mid , these are mid flighted, hard to say the monacco X is lower than the s, but thats a case oft he head matching, in the tr500s the flight wa 100% mid , delightfull flight. MCI was highest. wasnt baloon high but was noticeably higher than the others. i was purposefully hitting BIG cuts and massive hooks to see what the shafts do. exagerated to an enormous degree. the difffernce wer pretty big. most later al movement ..EASILY the MCI, they went miles both directions. least movement by a long way SP blue. cudnt make these draw to save my life. modus 120 didtn wanna move left much either, but it did a lot the further the ball was nearing its zentih the 130s simila. the monacco was a nice arc form inception. aerotech was like drawing a straight line. these things are WAY strong. almost too much to count! they just have zero feel FEEL,, modus 125 ........nicest .smoothest , all round perfection for me monacco x .......... HARSH aerotech........... like hitting a dull piece of light pole. mouds 120......... lively but thin in t he bend point, felt a bit under whelming but perfofmed brilliantly of course sp blue............ ahh thes things ,my nemisis. love em hate em. stiff , smooth but harsh alat the same time endo heads softe nthe blow a bit and they just out and out perform as long as u dont wanna get cute . and ont mind low worm burners. harsher than the modus range, i can see why NS canned the SP range and went for modus instead. monacoc s..........just out and out all rounders,feel not great, not bad, they just :"are" over all.. modus 130s my shafts , maybe too heavy to play ever yday for 10 days. but for once a week, they just suit my play the best, cant get enough of them, they are storng but are moveable just enough. id not like to go any harder in these, icud prob soft step them nad loosen them up a just a bit more. the sp blue are arrows . low arrows. stronger than the 130s, stronger than the rest in the equivalent flex. modus 120s are an easy every day playable shaft. smooth like silk, lighter. every enjoyable shaft , a bit low, so they do need a bit of encouragemnt to get airorn at times. but just a great all roud shaft monaccoX the soft stepped X are ONLY for links, id never thae these on hols they are way too heavy and harsh to play ever yday my arm wud fall off. but for longy in the puff, well, thats where these are headed! monacco S , there is a noticeable differnce, these are all rounder s akin to DG s200 . nothng about them really sticks out, they are mid flighted ,they perform unrel in wind. feel is accetpable, weight is fine these and modus 120 for ever yday shafts aeotechs well they are light for a start. but ULTRA stiff, dull. and lifeless, these things are 100% about hard hitting performance. impossible to make these bend in any direction i can play these every day no probs. bec the weight and harshness is minimal but they just kill any "niceness" the heads may have. its a pretty good match in the toutstage 701 heads bec toursatge are a bit harder than most heads, these dont ruin a butter soft epon kinda feel. i was going to take these out of the 701s , but now, no chance, they ae spot on match so where does this lav the MCI ? im still not sure. i didnt mind them, the feel is ok, its better than the aerotech, no doubt. but its no where near as tight. flight was def high and floatiest of the above shafts , prob the easist to hit. these are undoubtable ever ydayers, but i wasnt that sold on them, they are the loosest of the above, which def means i can either go to a hard step S or an x flex. stock S isnt my match. didnt like the kick point very much either , they felt the flimsiest of the shafts ahhhhhhh i dont think i can justify dropping close to a ton on them considering how good the others i have already are, poin it, ilove steel, and its never been more mphasised than sunday when i hit them all. the ones i gravitated to every time were the modus 130s they just fele the best. i love the kick point, the smothtness, stepping on the gas they go better, performance ,well its nS they perform! ranking tthem is usless bec i cu play everyone of these alone. but i dont work like that i like t psice things up nad neach has its own characteristic. suffice to say its modus 130s....monacco S....modus 120 tops for me decision.. no MCI for me.

the modus werent baout when i had the 302s, so cant say there, but my aftours have them now,perfect match 120s are the lowest of the modus range with a very noticeable flex. i like the 125 and 130s better than the 120s , for u id prob suggest the modus 130s wud be a better shaft that the other 2. they are heavier , they ahve a differnetn kick and they are ubder strong. every time i hit these vs others i keep getting reminded how good they are cant ply them yet, building up my stregnth again. when thata back ill play these i only have them in stiff and thats PLENTY for me. sp blue i had out on sunday i took 7 , 6 irons out for a test on sunday to see if i wa going t o drop a ton on hthose MCI shafts. modus 120s...modus 130s...sp blueS...MCIs...monacco X (soft steped)..monacco S....aerotech 110X of them all. my faves were the 130s stiifs, i just like the fligh best and the kick is non specific. monacco dulls heads but their peformance is unrivaled, mid flight so straight but u can....... ahh ill do a whole new thread post on these it makes for interstign reading..,