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Wow i forgot this thread existed! I sold these irons in august 2004, I miss them very much but the Gauge MB's are doing the job very well at the moment. MP-27's are sweet clubs they are to CB's what the MP33's are to blades.

Where are you examples? your Foundries? your famous American hand grinders? Both side to side no comparison. Are you angry with me or just blind because pics alone prove the quality is unmatched in finish, grind, and technology. You really need to try some quality Japan stuff and learn more about the golf clubs you are hitting. American made is now China made. Call me bias all you want, the fact still remains that you cant find an example foundry or product that comes close what Japan has. show me the Examples as I asked you. I can show you pages. The reason why things are not made in America is because of cost of labor, material, unexperienced staff and Chemical restrictions. The Japanese steel is more expensive, the employee is paid more, the staff is more experienced and QC is overwhelmingly better in almost all cases. Did you not read about the Chemicals and Materials...Do you think thats a pitch for me to sell my clubs? I cant even name one master hand grinder in the U.S, please help me with that. The American customer is not willing to spend as much as the Japanese on average therefore they will get a less expensive design. there are countless examples of this right now in the golf industry. Srixon W403 vs 404 mizuno MX-17 & MX-23 vs MP-27 & JPX, CLK vs UX2, High fli2 vs UX1 etc etc etc...to many to list. more can be put into a 1000.00 club than a club that costs 500.00 to make. Ping? so you compare the U.S made clubs by Ping to Japanese quality? please tell me why? do you know what they used to make them? who grinded them? Bad example dude, it really shows you haven't experienced real high quality golf clubs yet. I was expecting ping if you didn't know much but figured you would say Hoffman's because you kinda sounded like you knew what you were talking about. FYI Scotty Cameron retails are mass produced in China. T.P mills is using forged Carbon Steel ( cheapest decent putter material ) Hand welded neck's are not the most accurate in regards to weighting and balance. T.P putters also have very little R&D before putting out a design and many times that design is non symmetrical. bettinardi is top notch USA but they only make putters. Why would the forging be done in the U.S.A? The better material and artisans are located in Japan. The American Golfer is not willing to shell out big bucks as the Japanese are. Why sell the best high end most expensive product to the people who wont buy? Solomon Adidas/TM is a German company...lol the top designer isn't even American and all the brands listed above are seriously mass produced in China @ huge volume. QC is poor, quality of steel is poor, and grinders are unexperienced ( many just out of high school ). Volume is set way to high to expect something perfect and uniform. Ask someone who works with Japanese forged clubs how the 2005 TP irons feel when bending compared to a Himeji forged set. Titileist , Hogan and Callaway use Endo Thailand as well so i don't exactly get what you are saying about American quality. What would remembering Scotland creating golf have to do with The differences and details in regards to why Japanese Crafting and clubs are the best? Argue the facts, material, craftsmanship, design, and QC. I care not about nationality of the company. I am very able to shred Japanese OEMs also. For you to give a fair analysis of the quality level we are talking about here you would have had to hit many of the best Japanese clubs and American side by side as I do. No disrespect but If you were here in person I could honestly teach you what to look for and why certain things are better.

What was the Rothschild like? Tannin & Acidity.

I am American and,... Quality is better in Japan hands down. If you cant tell, wow :surprize: Manufacturing: Many Military grade Materials and non compliant EPA regulated Chemicals are illegal in the United States. U.S plating companies cant provide as "quality" finishes like Satin, Chrome etc. The Chemicals are said to cause cancer. The best forged golf head is found in Japan. please if you could just show me of some better U.S forged heads....please. Japanese forged steel is the best in the world, its a process they have been doing hundreds of years. Craftsmanship: They Apprentice for years in their trade, they work longer hours than we do and very meticulously with so much pride. This trickles into every industry, electronics, cars and parts, Innovation etc.. Hand grinding is a respected trade where as the U.S OEMS out source to other parts of Asia where they use pitted steel and the non golfing, little experience, lower paid hand grinding staff that has an output of about 4000 sets a month compared to Japans very limited output. Americans don't even build the OEMS equipment its almost all made in China, Thailand, etc so how can we really compare? Technology: Sometimes it takes innovation 4 years to get the U.S, not because its junk but because the American customer is more bargain oriented. you can do so much more with 500.00 production cost vs 200.00. More internal weighting designs, more technical options to choose from. Japanese R&D is intense and they are just a high tech sorta people. If you can give us some examples of American made clubs or foundries I could better help you compare and understand why the Quality of Material, Craftsmanship, QC, and finish is better made in Japan. BTW China and Taiwan make the best drivers IMO. Anyway guys, I get to hit both U.S clubs and Japanese, Honestly no BS this stuff is better all around, thats why I fell in love with it and that is why I made this place. I too wish it was much cheaper but my prices are not too far off what the U.S Oem Chinese made clubs are going for in the recent. Its not the Arrow, I know, but you do get what you pay for....the best. :nos**t:

And the legend Nike Mike makes his first appearance in almost 8 months! :surprize: :nikewood:

:surprize: Nice! I wish there was a Jaw dropping smiley!

Many people dont know that these blades are made with Miura Heads :surprize:

Here is another view of this very cool setup!

Someone please give me the password. :wah:

FAQ just ordered one, I have 2 on order myself with my custom grind mizzys. I hit them at a demo spree near Tokyo and it was basically a better feeling easier to hit Mizuno CLK. This version has the rail in the sole and 17g's of tungsten weighting located inside the head. I custom ordered mine with NS-1150 Tour stiff and it will be a while before i get it. We have exactly 7 other lurking members that have purchased this club. Let hope some come out to share.

Here is a good pic of a raw scratch wedge while we wait for P's pix! :cool:

Yes Wie and many of Hawaii's best play Axiv. IMO the CP-02 is a tad more demanding than the W70, expect easier to hit.

Ouch!!! that's totally nasty !!! Good thing you're not qualify for the prizes, right Chris? :laugh: I am not in the running but if the winners wedge doesn't surpass mine they don't get the 2nd wedge free from scratch. Tomorrow I will start the voting thread.

Great 70g shaft, very easy to get good results with. If you like that weight and a medium torque range you will be very happy. I went with the W60 after trying the W70, they are both very forgiving its just the 60g range is more for me. There are many JPGA male amateurs using the W70 shaft in X, on the JLJPGA the W60 in S is most popular, for juniors the same. Top shafts for drivers IMO: - Axiv 6064M - 6564M - Diamana Stinger Limited - Tourstage Stock shaft TXD-70 ( same as the stinger - not many know) - Graphite Design M65 - Graphite Design W60 - Graphite Design PM702 J-Spec - Graphite Design W70 Axiv Baby! The 4 Tetras

OK here it is... my last effort before the contest ends :smile1:

I have had my PSP for over a month now. it was 170.00 in Japan :surprize: Most of my toys i buy and put them aside in a week or two but i have actually incorporated the PSP more into my life than a laptop. they have the #1 golf game IMO that smokes TW05, game is called everyone lets golf ( in Japanese ). I play 9-18 holes every morning on the toilet, when waiting for TS girl at the salon, shopping, or appointments it speeds the wait. I keep my Music on it, bye bye Ipod and I'm currently trying to figure out how exactly to write movies on UMD's :-D I don't play games much but still found the PSP very useful, hands down the best portable on the market. loading time is on average 15sec once per game and graphics are better than a PS2.

There is only W-70 and M-75 as far as I know.

Hey wow! this guy takes good pics! :cool: Both sets look solid, guys the MB's have been in my bag for several months now. Thats a long time in Ho'ing years. Nice stuff man, great price :cool:

Thats what I heard also.

The 1.50 is a fee in the B/S/T that you pay when you wanna sell your stuff :smile1: Its good to pay sometimes and Its all coming back to you guys with improvements to the site. :smile1: - TSG Profiles - TSG Members - TSG v.2 theme - TSG Gallery etc etc.. its secondary perk could be it fixed our B/S/T that was becoming a mess, a place for people to complain about others and many profit sellers were doing sales on the site with no respect to our sponsors or myself.

Congrats! This set has made the Featured Bag of the Month!

At this price who wouldn't buy these sweet Irons? Send me some clear pics and I will host them for you. BTW what is the difference between yours and the AR-1's?

:surprize: Bravo my friend! What an awesome look into the relationship of the worlds best golfer and his meticulous Japanese ball engineer. I am very excited to try this new ball coming, This report is too good, you out did yourself this time precision. Thank You :logo:

My point is the better player should get the exemptions not the prettier one. Isn't Fudoh your favorite player Tai?

When former men's world number one Tiger Woods triumphed at the Dunlop Phoenix tournament in Japan last November, Miyazato was winning a Japan LPGA title. The two events went head-to-head on Japanese television, and Miyazato's victory dwarfed the ratings achieved by Woods. Miyazato is not actually rated as Japans #1, Yuri Fudoh is She is the champion of her tour #1 four years straight her 10 victories in 2003 and 30 Tour wins total dominating the Japan LPGA yet receives not nearly half the amount of exemptions, money or fame as Miyazato... Why is this? Its Sadly all a matter of image. (Yuri Fudoh)