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Shafts can be confusing with the launch of a new shaft brand at TSG I wanted to do things right to make sure people are well versed on these products. Today it's the Prototype CL Shaft - LOOP's hard hitter option. Next step softer is the HD which I will cover in a separate thread. The new CL is their elite players shaft designed with a new tip section technology that takes advantage of Syncagraphites UD (Uni-Directional) Materials, this tip structure is designed to help the faster swinging player avoid the left side or a hook by keeping the tip section from twisting instead it pushes through the ball forward. The tip section is normal stiffness with a forward push anti twist design to help create more distance with stability and anti left characteristics while the mid and butt sections are both considered slightly stiff this design is actually deceiving as the shaft weighs about 65g's it feels more heavier and more stable than most 65g shafts providing a heavier than one would expect. Designed for player who wants to avoid the left side, promote a strong fade and is professional or low handicap level. The structure concept is designed around a lower ball flight and reducing back and side spin while near impact there is less toe drooping. It's produced using a double hold process which is an original technique by syncagraphite's factory. This Loop Prototype CL Driver Shaft is available in 5 Flex options which all above 64-65g in weight ( SR, S, SX, X, XX ) All LOOP Shafts are Custom Install Only - Not Available Shaft Only. Important - Before you comment read this thread : LOOP

It's called the Bubble Light it's 48 grams in stiff flex. If you go to the 53g range it's called the BW which is probably more what your looking for as the bubble is for seniors and ladies the BW is anti right, higher launching with a softer yet forward pushing tip kick. No they do not make custom shafts this means that when you order a shaft it's made to order they roll it fresh.

We do have some pre finished heads that you can email me for and we can put in any finish/paint/shaft/specs/grips for you and there is no upcharge it's the same 500 + shipping for the K1.

I'll give you the lofts but not FP or Bounce - 50/46/42/38/34/30/26/22 This prototype is forged of S15C.

I wasn't able to see the woods but while she was buying toilet paper I spy'd a Yamaha RMX Maraging Face #5 iron and a 56* Fourteen RM-21 Wedge.

+ 10lbs in just over 1 month Alcohol tolerance at an all time high Love this place, enjoy the pics!

A couple more to the proshop today. 1 of 3 Prototype with Fine Mill by GF Standard K1 w/ Polished Sole & Translucent Red Paint

If anyone is interested the driver shafts are 600 and the fairway wood shafts are 420. We start by talking with you about which shaft you and I think would best fit you then we have a custom fitting form we send to the factory manager to see what they advise based on your info. [email protected] I was supposed to test my Ray V with a LOOP today at the range but things got hectic.

Go with the CL - http://www.tourspecgolf.com/loop-prototype-cl-driver-shaft But as mentioned earlier we are doing custom fitting forms for this brand, we want to make sure people get the right shaft as it's a new brand and we are trying to keep the customer satisfaction ratings as high as possible. Also as mentioned LOOP is a bit different compared to other shafts, you may think you want mid 70's but if I gave you a 65g CL and told you it was 75g you wouldn't know the difference. The biggest thing I notice is that the tips kick forward and not in a turning motion also it has a different yet similar sensation to 7D where the shaft feels like it kicks totally different than most other shafts. Yes both worked for Crazy for some time, the 2 shaft companies they were with before are big ones I've been asked not to talk about that. I will say that the last major won for this duo by a shaft they produced was in 2013.

A new shaft company is born - LOOP by syncagraphite and while we originally new about them via word in Japan LOOP shafts have caught our closer attention since trying these shafts at a demo session in Tokyo last month, what was most interesting is how stable and heavy they felt yet to our surprise the specs were actually lighter and softer than the result led us to believe and, for this reason, we knew it would be a great addition to the stable of shafts TSG has to offer. Many shafts use multi-axis weave designs where as LOOP uses a UD (Uni-Directional) Material, multi-axis doesn't require as much care in hand rolling construction as well as the multi-axis weaves have a material called penny-whistle or tin-whistle to fill the many gaps, UD (Uni-Directional) Material is a much more pure and complete carbon with no gaps or fillers it is also stronger and more expensive to produce a more consistent shaft using genuine materials. Click Read More to Continue... Designed by M.Hashimoto - Each LOOP shaft bares the name M.Hashimoto, so you wonder who he is, how about who SHE is! Known as the Jewel of the shaft industry, from her hands countless major victories have been achieved as a 30+ year veteran of the trade who is without a doubt the best at what she does.. as well as a cute little old lady In an industry dominated by men, it's pretty amazing to see a woman with so much insight and knowledge about shaft performance for even the strongest of players. Many shaft companies have tried to hire her and her best friend (a man) not married to each other just long time friends from the very beginning more than 30 years ago, these two stay together and do their best work together. The company that has landed this duo LOOP by syncagrahpite and put bluntly they hit the jackpot and are ver lucky as money alone could not acquire them; all the top shaft brands have tried and the bottom line is if you have these two as part of your team your making damn good shafts no matter what. They are responsible for the best years of so many famous shaft companies it's ridiculous. Both Ms. Hasimoto-san & Mr. Takahashi-san the dynamic duo I like to call them have a combined 60+ years hand rolling shafts with a philosophy of emphasizing accuracy and constant shaft movement minimizing energy loss and this is why they believe their method of hand making shafts using UD (Uni-Directional) Materials is the best. While Multi-Axis provides stability in many directions it is not as strong or pure as UD in it's intended direction you can also lay UD in specific patterns using to cover any extra directions needed although this method is more difficult and expensive to produce it's the way many of the special shafts produced one off for the worlds best players have been made. Another important aspect of the dynamic duo's design philosophy is extreme reproducibility so the player can consistently recreate that same great result over and over again for more both distance and accuracy. One thing I want to talk about that's important is the shaft's presentation, TSG knows the various finishing houses in Japan that do shaft graphics, you may think some brands look great but when you inspect it closer at a macro level the text is fuzzy or the paint is blotchy and even worse chip and flake, not going to name any names but there are a couple of brands that have a more than 30% finish defect rate. LOOP shafts are finished out of the industry and with a discerning eye you notice the quality of their matte finish vs. others or how the text is clear with sharp edges or the metallic flake in the colors is vibrant and not bumpy. Pay attention to the details because they matter. Above a PROTOTYPE shaft in a non-retail color it's so beautiful. Below a shot of Ms. Hashimoto-san preparing prepreg for layering. It's not an easy process; one would think especially a man that hand rolling a shaft is a piece of cake just takes a tiny iron a ruler right? Well, not all designs or hand rollers are the same, there is an incredible range of variation between two different people producing the same design, and this will show up in the CPM's and even the shafts results on the golf course. At more than a couple brands I've had conversation with people while they roll shafts as if it were nothing, then others who are so focused they can't even have you watching them without causing a distraction, so the point is those who are casual with this art produce casual results and all the best crafters I've known are not casual about anything they are maniacal and passionate about what they do as the produce their name. In the second image of this post you can see the UD (Uni-Directional) Material after rolling it's a high gloss look after that the shafts are ground smooth and inspected heavily during this process, again and again, this is done to prep the shaft well for finishing a poorly prep shaft not only becomes defective in finish but also performs poorly and on display I saw many major OEM shafts that had unnatural curves to them from well casual workers. The result is total smoothness and consistency, after this, it's further refined via hand sanding and checked over and over for complete roundness by eye/hand/and machine. Below a photo of perfectly round shaft mandrels. LOOP's latest release the PROTOTYPE FW SIX - it's 68 grams in stiff but when testing this shaft I thought it was heavier, with LOOP due to the UD (Uni-Directional) Material and it's designed structure as mentioned at the very start of this post they feel heavier, seem firmer, than what the weight and torque leads you to believe they would play, one common misconception and one of hardest things to dispel from westerners shaft logic is torque/weight/flex you know how it is the guy who should be playing regular is playing stiff, or someone with poor swing mechanics thinks torque is the cure or that two shafts that have similar weight, torque numbers, should perform the same, people this is the wrong way to go about shafts its not only wrong it's preventing the player of finding the proper shaft for their swing ultimately wasting their cash. It's about shaft structure, design, materials and the methods used in making them and, of course, brands don't disclose this information but once you let go of everything you think you know only then are you able to learn new things, I don't know what another way to put this but forget what you think you know about shafts as technology has changed the field and so has various hand crafters. So here is the big question: How do you find the perfect shaft for your swing? That's the million dollar question, right? Straight up it's not an easy thing to do TSG monitors our customers satisfaction ratings of products usually after 45 days of purchase we send our thousands of customers a feedback email to input their opinion positive or negative on their purchase, we see what brands are easy to fit, what brands are hard and what brands produce the best results. Success rate & Failure rates are important to us. You can buy the wrong shaft from a company that makes your perfect shaft and not be happy so what TourSpecGolf is doing is working together with LOOP to produce a fitting form that we send to LOOP for the advice of their factory manager in regards to fitting this greatly increases your chances of finding the best shaft within the brand for your type of swing.... just don't exaggerate on the fitting form please there are so many 200lb 6ft tall men who hit it no more than 220yds due to swing mechanics who would rather claim to hit it 280 for their ego. That will mess your fitting form up. Remember forget what you know so you can be open to learning something new. (above) The shaft oven! (below) Ms. Hashimoto-san working her magic. So I hope you enjoyed this brief introduction of LOOP by Syncagraphite for the next couple of weeks we will be highlighting the brand shaft model by shaft model not just tossing out a ton of options for you to gloss over we will talk about each shaft in an individual post who that shaft is for and what type of player should be using it, beyond that in the TourSpecGolf Forum we will be running a LOOP Custom Fitting Thread to help players see and learn more about what models have worked for others or not. Enjoy the rest of our photos and look for the continuation of our LOOP coverage coming later this week!

Found one of his tour issue classic clubs!

Don't listen to their website, we are putting something together it's just crazy is taking forever on their end. There is no equivalent shaft to the EVO TS even if you matched weight, torque, flex, cpm's two shafts especially as different as these will play nothing alike. will get back to you on this.

Hey Dale, no I dont think so.

Usually 4-Star's = a very gold head. That's not how we do it at TSG. Stealth is key here both in head & shaft paint. Honma Beres is for the slower swinger, tour world for the playa, and BeZeal sit's in between. **** = high ton carbon + TT1100G + 8 Axis + Honma rolling it at Sakata. The skinny in the blog, the photos over here:

This woman, everyone has tried to hire her and her best friend ( a man ) not married to eachother just long time friends from work, these two stay together and do their best work together. The company that has landed this duo is lucky as money alone could not acquire them, all the top shaft brands have tried but bottom line is if you have these two as part of your team your making damn good shafts no matter what. They are responsible for the best years of so many shaft companies it's ridiculous. The PGA Tour Players and most JPGA tour players know nothing of them, the executives at the U.S subsidiary's of the world's best shaft companies are not privy to this history, this stuff runs deep and part of the DNA of JDM land. While much of Japan drives me up the wall at the same time so much more mystify's me, the culture has created their greatness as well as their downfalls but that goes for everyone on this tiny planet no matter where we lay. How does the old man sweeping the gutter get up at 3am press his clothes, wear white gloves keeping them spotless throughout the day yet doing a job that 2 younger men could not do... no idea. I'm just a spectator to it all.

There are so many women in every brand that get zero credit even though they are the final set of eyes and hands to touch your clubs, we talk about Japanese tolerance yet we don't give enough credit to the lovely ladies that make sure it lands in our hands that way.

We will highlight a woman known as the Jewel of the shaft industry, from her hands countless major victories have been achieved a 30+ year veteran of the trade who is without a doubt the best at what she does.. as well as a cute little old lady

The people I know at GD Japan dont even know about this. It should be coming from Japan first not being sold in China so approach this one carefully. This is also a generic shaft adapter used just to swap shafts. My guess is its for display use, ive seen Tour AD and NSPro irons in the past.

Most non conformig drivers can still handle some pretty high speeds but i wouldnt suggest over 100mph just to be safe. Ryoma caps the conforming models at 50ms or 111mph and non conforming at around100mph. I still suggest no more than 95mph on the ST Maxima and dont let your fast swinging buddy to hit your ST.

Similar to the Ryoma U its the longest UT Ive ever hit also F3 provided the player can make clean contact and has the proper shaft. TSG gets a lot of feedback from members via our automated review emails and just through converstion with customers, hands down for swingers around 100 and below Ryoma products produce the best distance and for guys like yourself who have the ability to buy and try everything so many end again and again with the ST Maxima, they all keep looking of course but its proven to be futile after a Ryoma w/7D my job gets next to impossible helping them find something longer.

The Ryoma Special Tune is the longest driver in its segment, the factories and industry insiders know this and have known since the D1, one of the main reasons besides the design is because its on the limit of tolorence for breakage hence why there is an issue with cracked heads. Ryoma's and especially the special tunes have the thinnest bodies and faces in golf. The designer Tanimoto-san is from the medical device industry he operates to a different tune than the rest of the Japan Golf Industry.

a non conforming inner rebound spring that at the moment of impact releases forward for a more powerful reflection off the club face, this spring makes this club non conforming in a new way usually non conforming is judged by the face COR related to thinness but Kamui Works has introduced this new method for even more distance advantage to the player. These are custom handmade heads so the options on these are many yes you can order this conforming but it will not have the inner spring. Like the previous KM-200 they pump air into the head to further increase rebound along with grooves on both the inside and outside of the face to create better forgiveness on the heel and toe side, as you can see there is a cut in the rear moving the cg forward and low for a low spin mid/high trajectory.

T-MB to my surprise felt spongy and kinda soft to me, I was expecting firm and hollow which it wasnt for me.

I have other prototypes using the exact same mold as the yonex ezones but found those to be just decent in feel and forgiveness. We used a larger head mold for this particular design and now its much softer and more forgiving. keep in mind this is just a one off here fellas, insipiration was the Yonex Ezone as you can see in the milled channel.

Better carbon basically which allows you to rely less on timing to square the club face, smaller bad shots and more straightness. Jump to 5 stars and honma will do whatever you want, custom handroll you whatever shaft and any spec, profile, color u need. same with the head they basically put it together from scratch at your request with their full factory capabilities at your request.