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nobs ill ahve the tour. the second one. ive got one simlar done by golds and it came out off the hook !

remove tour world paint , remove forged paint, remove shaft, repalce with NS 2g18s. sell spare sets. place in roddio caddy bag have trouble playing another set. for a while nice thought. birdie!

MOB if u want a set of lighter , tighter , higher steel shafts, i seriosuly recomend the NS ST protos. these are feather light , but TIGHT, they will not ruin ur arm i play these in the cold exclusively now. thats a shaft well worht looking into , they run about 110 grams launch HIGH land soft. diff to the other NS out at the moment.

ahhhhhh...right .. it was NOT the intetnion to quash anyones intent at all for graphite. far from it.. i just observed what each shaft played like in similar heads agaisnt another shaft ... the whole reason i went for this test was bec my elbow also blew up late last year and it was agony till about 4 weeks ago. i cud ahdly lift it after a game , and i was intending to play grpahite only this whole year, but its improved outta site so i dont need to (HOPEFULLY) the compariosn was inted to ilustrate thpeformance of graphte vs steel that I PLAY and enjoy. it might be a tad unfait looking back o nthsi mow, to comare a graphite stif 110 gram shaft vs a 128gram X but i think i put that to bed by using the aerotech 110 vs the MCI 110, diff stinness granted, and i played both of htese hafts on course a cl of weeks back hit plenty of balls with both the aerotech for me was hte btter suited shaft, no doubt. the MCI for what it is worth, on 18, i think i mentioned as well, was so easy to get it on green, but it was def looser. the ablity to hard stpe these i beleive wud improve the performance to what i like but the restriciting factor for me is the price... if they were 3/4 of this id get them. but buying, preppeing, installign them runs at a huge peremium over steel like almosttwice the price. i dodnt see enough proof that these wud imporve my performance by a factor of 2:1,esp as the aerotechs were 1/2 the price nad a LOT better than 1/2 as good! if the MCI were the same , or maybe a bit more than my top shelf shafts , id tget them in a heartbeat. but NOT AT CURENT PRICING LEVELS.. they ddint show me a SIGNIFICANT impovement over any thing i already have. i like them but think they are too expensive . if i cud get a set used in top nick , for a good price, sure...,id have them in a jiffy. is that a better statement of intent ?

dont think id need to do that to the stiffs. they are ,for me, spot on . it wud def tighten them up a tad. but i like their specs just as they are. if u like tighter, sure thing!

the monacco X, as in X flex. theres only a few grams differnce between the stiffs , but in heads they play much heavier and taughter. especially when u get to the 7 plus. its def a case of each to thier own. and depending on what each individual wants to see in ball flight and movement ... and feel.., , each shaft differs signicantly. as much as the SP blue play uber striaght, i think myh ead space has moved onto other shafts now, but for a specific type of play, like if i was playing links every day, these are world beaters. similarly playing on rock hard greens in autumn when theres no wind and the ground is gettign harder. then the NS ST shafts are the equivalent. but on he other send, super high, ligh, very thin but very tight, land soft like a feather. these are great in the cold. easily the best shafts for winter . but in mid summer nothing beats my 2g18s. monacco stiffs right up there strasa. and the new 125s might be a very close chaser, not enough time with them yet. of the DG.. the s200 are playable. the rest mehhhh. once uve gone to NS its virtually impossible to go back to DG. i hate KBS, and i dont like those flighted project X things, they baloon. graphite is really gettign there. but not yet for me. aerotechs are the ones id choose if i went that route 100% ahhh shame. bec i really wanted to play these.

was trying my hardest to like them a lot and im pretty sure if i hard stepped them they wud work well but i cant really see the point, whrn i ve got 20 sets of irons dropping close on a thou on shafs alone which im sure wont get near the airtime they deserve with my stash. plus , they didnt jump off the page at me. nope for now im ver yhappy with my litte stash. soft stepping the monacco X is another serious option i will loook at for another set of heads. they just play damn well.

nobs , that s exacly what i thought the second i saw it . those adams were great tho, one of the only utes that ddnt automatically want to snap hook. these get the nod over them tho bec they look awsome. imagine they play just like the adams.

good snare. zen next. and ur off to the races!

just posted a new one. funnily enough ur questions ring a bell

deciding on whether to build a set of mci, i still wasnt convinced these are worth the coin. the MCI are double anything else i have so i was curious to see if they wud be awaste, the heads i had earmarked for them are my faves ,endo forged prgr idbls ,so they aint no mickey mouse head. im not going to waste a set of shafts on these heads.. range time sunday morning with these.... prgr idbl.....................modus 130s prgr idbl...... ..............MCI 110s masda blade........... monacco X soft stepped tm r9 tp ............. ......modus 120s hard stepped callaway tour authentic......NS sp blues prgr tr500......monacco s tourstage 701....aerotech 110x the whole purpose was to test the MCI vs these tried, tested loved shafts lofts are pretty similar . nothing was 3* stronger. ok how to break down the particlaurs without takign 1 billion words and half my day , FLIGHT ........, monacco X .....sp blue... modus 120 . all pretty low. , the masda head is ULTRA low so that monnaco combo was like an arrow from the ground. i wudnt like to hit this over 170 yards of all carry water.. slightest under hit and......, plop! modus 130...monacco S....aerotech , areotech the lowest of these, virging on low but ill call it mid , these are mid flighted, hard to say the monacco X is lower than the s, but thats a case oft he head matching, in the tr500s the flight wa 100% mid , delightfull flight. MCI was highest. wasnt baloon high but was noticeably higher than the others. i was purposefully hitting BIG cuts and massive hooks to see what the shafts do. exagerated to an enormous degree. the difffernce wer pretty big. most later al movement ..EASILY the MCI, they went miles both directions. least movement by a long way SP blue. cudnt make these draw to save my life. modus 120 didtn wanna move left much either, but it did a lot the further the ball was nearing its zentih the 130s simila. the monacco was a nice arc form inception. aerotech was like drawing a straight line. these things are WAY strong. almost too much to count! they just have zero feel FEEL,, modus 125 ........nicest .smoothest , all round perfection for me monacco x .......... HARSH aerotech........... like hitting a dull piece of light pole. mouds 120......... lively but thin in t he bend point, felt a bit under whelming but perfofmed brilliantly of course sp blue............ ahh thes things ,my nemisis. love em hate em. stiff , smooth but harsh alat the same time endo heads softe nthe blow a bit and they just out and out perform as long as u dont wanna get cute . and ont mind low worm burners. harsher than the modus range, i can see why NS canned the SP range and went for modus instead. monacoc s..........just out and out all rounders,feel not great, not bad, they just :"are" over all.. modus 130s my shafts , maybe too heavy to play ever yday for 10 days. but for once a week, they just suit my play the best, cant get enough of them, they are storng but are moveable just enough. id not like to go any harder in these, icud prob soft step them nad loosen them up a just a bit more. the sp blue are arrows . low arrows. stronger than the 130s, stronger than the rest in the equivalent flex. modus 120s are an easy every day playable shaft. smooth like silk, lighter. every enjoyable shaft , a bit low, so they do need a bit of encouragemnt to get airorn at times. but just a great all roud shaft monaccoX the soft stepped X are ONLY for links, id never thae these on hols they are way too heavy and harsh to play ever yday my arm wud fall off. but for longy in the puff, well, thats where these are headed! monacco S , there is a noticeable differnce, these are all rounder s akin to DG s200 . nothng about them really sticks out, they are mid flighted ,they perform unrel in wind. feel is accetpable, weight is fine these and modus 120 for ever yday shafts aeotechs well they are light for a start. but ULTRA stiff, dull. and lifeless, these things are 100% about hard hitting performance. impossible to make these bend in any direction i can play these every day no probs. bec the weight and harshness is minimal but they just kill any "niceness" the heads may have. its a pretty good match in the toutstage 701 heads bec toursatge are a bit harder than most heads, these dont ruin a butter soft epon kinda feel. i was going to take these out of the 701s , but now, no chance, they ae spot on match so where does this lav the MCI ? im still not sure. i didnt mind them, the feel is ok, its better than the aerotech, no doubt. but its no where near as tight. flight was def high and floatiest of the above shafts , prob the easist to hit. these are undoubtable ever ydayers, but i wasnt that sold on them, they are the loosest of the above, which def means i can either go to a hard step S or an x flex. stock S isnt my match. didnt like the kick point very much either , they felt the flimsiest of the shafts ahhhhhhh i dont think i can justify dropping close to a ton on them considering how good the others i have already are, poin it, ilove steel, and its never been more mphasised than sunday when i hit them all. the ones i gravitated to every time were the modus 130s they just fele the best. i love the kick point, the smothtness, stepping on the gas they go better, performance ,well its nS they perform! ranking tthem is usless bec i cu play everyone of these alone. but i dont work like that i like t psice things up nad neach has its own characteristic. suffice to say its modus 130s....monacco S....modus 120 tops for me decision.. no MCI for me.

the modus werent baout when i had the 302s, so cant say there, but my aftours have them now,perfect match 120s are the lowest of the modus range with a very noticeable flex. i like the 125 and 130s better than the 120s , for u id prob suggest the modus 130s wud be a better shaft that the other 2. they are heavier , they ahve a differnetn kick and they are ubder strong. every time i hit these vs others i keep getting reminded how good they are cant ply them yet, building up my stregnth again. when thata back ill play these i only have them in stiff and thats PLENTY for me. sp blue i had out on sunday i took 7 , 6 irons out for a test on sunday to see if i wa going t o drop a ton on hthose MCI shafts. modus 120s...modus 130s...sp blueS...MCIs...monacco X (soft steped)..monacco S....aerotech 110X of them all. my faves were the 130s stiifs, i just like the fligh best and the kick is non specific. monacco dulls heads but their peformance is unrivaled, mid flight so straight but u can....... ahh ill do a whole new thread post on these it makes for interstign reading..,

PR-GR egg ONE........7.5*...............diamana X 70s 44.6255 inch x d0.75sw pulled the perfefectly good stock m-43 shaft which played at 46 inch to test out how this wud go with un uber-schlokken shaft buider had to gel the head beceause this head comes out a wafer thin ,light 187 grams! shaft inserted came out 44.625 inch swing weight with a tip weight and gel best he cud do was a hair under d1 it seems................................... im liking........................... lighter swing weight drivers. had the ryoma with same shaft with it on range 44.75 inch the diffecne was pretty big feel wise the egg blew it off the face of the earth, but i like a lively tinnngy feel as opposed to duller, thats not a bad thing of course ,its just my thing. i had a hard time puting it down. distance, the egg definatly longer on big shots. on not quite got thems,. def the ryoma ,once again it showed why its the mack daddy of consistant. the ratio of distance to accuraacy ive still not hit antyhing thats better than the ryoma, which is prbo why ive stil lgot 3 of them but can make do with one of them now. much perferd hitting the egg. at address it looks bad ass. HUGE bulbous head with a triangle shape face mark that lok like the predators radar on alien VS predator..... frames the ball . beautifully, its tilted as well., tilte towards the hitter so it apepars like its going to hit a massive draw.......... NO FFKN WAY! u ht a draw with this , then ur name MUST be michealangelo. even with the tip weight and gel this bady aint going nsap hoop no matter what i di to it. misses , ever miss was a cut. striagh pulled a cpl bec its so short. which is natural to start. but man this was an anti right. i cant wait to get this on corse next weekend with the egg7 with aliislei 83g 9* the X shaft just had that extra thump to it that extra gussssssh, the aliislei feelway better ,much smoohter, but the X has th e X factor. hypothesising here , but i think ill hit the egg 7 more consistany but shorter and , ill hit the egg 1 longer and love it more. both these dirvers have skyrockeded into pol poistion for the moment in terms of preference and enjoyment. god li love building drivers!

Hang on fellas, steady up ... i feel some doubt here.. , Mjr D guy is no ordianry golfing human on TSG hes a bit of an enigma , if he says he can hit it 250 ,then no doubt to me he hits it 250 , he ( cud ) also also throw a ball on 100 miles an hour, anyone else who used to throw a bit of knows how insane rediclulous that sounds, but alas its true .... luckily ive witnessed said rediculousnes golf before as well. i played a round with one guy who was a fulback for sanfrn 49s who hit the utter shiit ouuta it, i mean clobbered it ,ive never seen anything like it before, or agian , on 18 when i recomended he take the ute to lay up, he took dirver , (hit it over the trees i never knew were in play!) .he calmly (smugly) said , what u think i shud play from there? i ,after picking my jaw off the grass had to say , how about putter, mate, ! its just redciulous playing with them seeing them fly ur best drive,, with a ute! Ok so , D.... yep, i struggled big time with the 302s as well NO IDEA WHY.. i loved them ive had 2 sets of them i just figured it was the indian not the arrow, but compared to my other sets it was NOT nearly the same consistancy, i was so frustrated , my plan was to play the aftours and 302 for ever. but i just cudnt get the 302s in tune. even tho they have close to , if not the best feel of any club ive hit , i just cudnt get them consistant enough i flattened a set 1* and that helped . but i was already thinking other clubs by then. flattening defnatly helped tho. the best shaft combo i had with them was the SP blue. or the monaccos. take the graphite OUT! the modus DP ive got with my aftours. while thers a bit of a differnce to the 302 its the same unmistakebale EPON feel. the modus are terrific with them. like them a lot. keeps them a bit lower.

the A-grind is as long and lower that the 388????? wholly molly this must be a worm burner, the 388 is as low as u can go and its long. shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.., i gotta get me one now.

yea sure if it dont go by the 14th il ltake it off u can hit it . the things lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. think the shaft is still laying about i took it of as well.., will take 2 mins to reinstall

they are all good looking sticks indeed. the vega look terrific

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decied to go the MCI 110s, hard stepped with the prgr idbl heads. the Stiffs were ok, perfectly good really , but i just like it a tad tighter, i did loose a cpl left that was impossible with the aerotechs. so we figuered this was a good idea while keeping the lighter weight and the possibility of bit of arc. these heads and shafts are a good match , ive got the MASDA grips on them and they also look awosme ,im hoping it tightens them up just a smidge. in the thick lush grass of summer , boy these might just get some play.

pretty clsoe.. yea......., i think so actually , i had them with NS 950s tho so that helped.

Doc, thats the exact opposite for me, i dont mind a closed driver at all , i seem to hit them better, not worse, but1 just go eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek at off set irons. ive had THE biggest set of offset blades in the history of the world and never recovered from it. the rest of this set was very tolerable but the pw was way too much. still , these are a very much a plaers iron with the softest head u can imagine. these heads with the off set of prgr idbls wud be a lock down for me

yea, chiro, my thoughts exactly as well. why oh why........., vewry good look these , has anyone played this finish before?. ilove the look and wud love to do a set but am worried they will wear very fast.

looks just like he 101 to me, which is a good thing bec that was a great head. the shaft co needs some investigating. black ip face , best looking face material ever ,but the wear on it is noticeable after a sort time. 201 gram head is nice tho. think itll go well.

im getting these back just not the PW. ill use a set of wedges instead. i rem. my first game with these in hokkaido, that feel will never leave me. they were brillinant. but for the pw...,

these heads, these were forged ( id hope so with that enormous forged logo on it ) endo thailand , no?